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Who says Fedex and UPS aren't all in on electric? Are you in their corporate meetings? People act like the mammoth transition of a civilization (or even a huge

Who says Fedex and UPS aren't all in on electric? Are you in their corporate meetings? People act like the mammoth transition of a civilization (or even a huge logistics company) would be on the order of 2-3 years, and not a generation. Public transit in many places has already switched to propane/LNG. Same with lots of municipal work trucks. Your first sentence is the attitude he's responding to: That trucking/logistics/cityworks are able to make their own refueling stations, build their own support infrastructure, etc. in ways that the public cannot, on the short term.

kingsuper20 6y ago
>Who says Fedex and UPS aren't all in on electric? Because I haven't seen a single electric truck of any type by any service. Perhaps someone here has, love to hear about it. Since my wife is a shipping manager for a manufacturer, there is some anecdotal backing. (jeesh, why are people so religious about this stuff?). I don't doubt that they are planning a long term move at places like Fedex, but articles on it lead me to believe they are just dipping their toe in the water. A moon shot to accomplish something by 2040 is the opposite of all-in, they may not exist as a company in 20 years. In any case, as I was alluding to, short-haul trucking will electrify far before long-haul, for obvious reasons (and if it ever does)...at least for purely economic reasons. All bets are off if the hand of the state dictates a technology. > Your first sentence is the attitude he's responding to lol. What? That I doubt that you'll see hydrogen fueled long-haul trucking in the US? Care to make a bet on it? What is your time horizon on the bet?
- callalex 6y ago
  I see electric fedex and ups delivery trucks all the time in several SF Bay Area counties. Anecdotes aren’t very useful in broad analysis.
  - kingsuper20 6y ago
    OK, I looked it up. The Fedex fleet is a little over 1% electric...and that includes forklifts and airport equipment. Like I keep saying, they'll be all over this tech when it really pencils out.

kingsuper20 6y ago

>Who says Fedex and UPS aren't all in on electric? Because I haven't seen a single electric truck of any type by any service. Perhaps someone here has, love to hear about it. Since my wife is a shipping manager for a manufacturer, there is some anecdotal backing. (jeesh, why are people so religious about this stuff?). I don't doubt that they are planning a long term move at places like Fedex, but articles on it lead me to believe they are just dipping their toe in the water. A moon shot to accomplish something by 2040 is the opposite of all-in, they may not exist as a company in 20 years. In any case, as I was alluding to, short-haul trucking will electrify far before long-haul, for obvious reasons (and if it ever does)...at least for purely economic reasons. All bets are off if the hand of the state dictates a technology. > Your first sentence is the attitude he's responding to lol. What? That I doubt that you'll see hydrogen fueled long-haul trucking in the US? Care to make a bet on it? What is your time horizon on the bet?

callalex 6y ago
I see electric fedex and ups delivery trucks all the time in several SF Bay Area counties. Anecdotes aren’t very useful in broad analysis.
- kingsuper20 6y ago
  OK, I looked it up. The Fedex fleet is a little over 1% electric...and that includes forklifts and airport equipment. Like I keep saying, they'll be all over this tech when it really pencils out.