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Another win for Apple is convincing people that it’s somewhat obvious that Apple should have a ton of data about me so I guess best to limit it to one place rat

by xt00 5y ago

Another win for Apple is convincing people that it’s somewhat obvious that Apple should have a ton of data about me so I guess best to limit it to one place rather than allowing “anybody” to get access to it. But put that into the context of buying a laptop from say HP and saying to somebody, do you think HP should know virtually everything about your usage of that laptop? So I hope for the day where we end up with hardware that we truly own rather than them owning us..

mistrial9 5y ago
"I hope for the day where we end up with hardware that we truly own rather than them owning us.." so frustrating to read this in 2021, with memories of the personal computer in the 80s and 90s. The exact market placement of PC's was to break a dependence on a central account somewhere. Many, many people knew exactly what that meant, supported a plural market of hardware and software (in the West) with their individual purchases, and things were fun and interesting. Trading software and hardware was more like trading books and records - in the privacy of your town and home. So many positives to this model.
wayoutthere 5y ago
I actually don’t think the “general purpose computing hardware ownership” model scales in today’s world. Sure, enthusiasts will always buy them, but a locked down OS like iOS is a lot more resilient to the myriad of security threats out there. And there are a lot of them now. In my opinion as a consumer, I’m buying an iPhone because Apple curates the App Store and has strict rules for what gets on there. But to do that, they need a lot more info about me. We’ve entered the era of “computing as a service” outside the enthusiast / PC gamer realm. At the corporate level, this is literally becoming the case: the new model is to just outsource everything for corporate devices, including ownership of the machines, and lease them through a managed services agreement. But this rebundling is less obvious in the consumer space as PCs have largely been replaced by tablets and smartphones (which do follow more of an “as a service” model).
- telendram 5y ago
  > I’m buying an iPhone because Apple curates the App Store Ahah, Ahahah.... AhaHAHAHAHAHAH Sure, the App Store is just full of Scam Applications that are "so hard to detect" that they top the App Store revenue chart, https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021/02/09/developer-uncovers-scam-apps-making-millions-on-apple-app-store/ https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021/02/09/developer-uncovers... but Hey, THANKS APPLE, they CURATED the App Store ! (PS: if you got scammed and get your bank account siphoned off, or lost all your bitcoin, this is obviously Your Fault. Now that you have a problem, let's correct the previous statement : Actually, Apple Never promised anything, right ?)
  - nicbou 5y ago
    This is not the tone you're expected to use on HN

by xt00 5y ago

mistrial9 5y ago

"I hope for the day where we end up with hardware that we truly own rather than them owning us.." so frustrating to read this in 2021, with memories of the personal computer in the 80s and 90s. The exact market placement of PC's was to break a dependence on a central account somewhere. Many, many people knew exactly what that meant, supported a plural market of hardware and software (in the West) with their individual purchases, and things were fun and interesting. Trading software and hardware was more like trading books and records - in the privacy of your town and home. So many positives to this model.

wayoutthere 5y ago

I actually don’t think the “general purpose computing hardware ownership” model scales in today’s world. Sure, enthusiasts will always buy them, but a locked down OS like iOS is a lot more resilient to the myriad of security threats out there. And there are a lot of them now. In my opinion as a consumer, I’m buying an iPhone because Apple curates the App Store and has strict rules for what gets on there. But to do that, they need a lot more info about me. We’ve entered the era of “computing as a service” outside the enthusiast / PC gamer realm. At the corporate level, this is literally becoming the case: the new model is to just outsource everything for corporate devices, including ownership of the machines, and lease them through a managed services agreement. But this rebundling is less obvious in the consumer space as PCs have largely been replaced by tablets and smartphones (which do follow more of an “as a service” model).

telendram 5y ago
> I’m buying an iPhone because Apple curates the App Store Ahah, Ahahah.... AhaHAHAHAHAHAH Sure, the App Store is just full of Scam Applications that are "so hard to detect" that they top the App Store revenue chart, https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021/02/09/developer-uncovers-scam-apps-making-millions-on-apple-app-store/ https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021/02/09/developer-uncovers... but Hey, THANKS APPLE, they CURATED the App Store ! (PS: if you got scammed and get your bank account siphoned off, or lost all your bitcoin, this is obviously Your Fault. Now that you have a problem, let's correct the previous statement : Actually, Apple Never promised anything, right ?)
- nicbou 5y ago
  This is not the tone you're expected to use on HN