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I've never gotten to mess around with Multics before. It has a personality, and feels like something I could get work done with once I was used to it.

nix23 5y ago
Yeah it's much more approachable then let's say MVS 3.8j Tur(n)key 4
- cptnapalm 5y ago
  Happen to know a good "getting started" site or book for MVS? I rescued a small S/390 from a metal scrap dealer and, if the Gods of lost software smile on me, would like one day to have it up and running again.
  - nix23 5y ago
    Sure: -Moshix YT channel is pretty nice: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1ajTWGiUtiAv8X-hpBY7w https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1ajTWGiUtiAv8X-hpBY7w -And here some documentation and the MVS distribution: http://wotho.ethz.ch/tk4-/ http://wotho.ethz.ch/tk4-/ -AND the fantastic bit-savers...enough reading material for a lifetime https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/ibm/370/ https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/ibm/370/ https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/ibm/390/ https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/ibm/390/ I wish you lots of fun, and thanks for saving some history ;)
    - bilegeek 5y ago
      To piggyback on your comment, Moshix also runs an HNET relay network with MVS nodes. Node name list: http://moshix.dynu.net/ http://moshix.dynu.net/ Web interface: http://relayserver.dynu.net/ http://relayserver.dynu.net/ About page: https://relayserver.dynu.net/about https://relayserver.dynu.net/about
- ngcc_hk 5y ago
  Not totally fair as you should compared with Tso at least. Or with ispf (major edit our NS still like it more for line editing and hence vi guy now but still ...). Of course you have vm. Having said that I was surprise after reading the Multics myth and its story against bell unix is that it is all pr. or the winner took it all. And sort of rewrite the history.
  - nix23 5y ago
    I meant it's more approachable mainly because of the hierarchical filesystem, but yes your are right, unfair comparison.

nix23 5y ago

Yeah it's much more approachable then let's say MVS 3.8j Tur(n)key 4

cptnapalm 5y ago
Happen to know a good "getting started" site or book for MVS? I rescued a small S/390 from a metal scrap dealer and, if the Gods of lost software smile on me, would like one day to have it up and running again.
- nix23 5y ago
  Sure: -Moshix YT channel is pretty nice: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1ajTWGiUtiAv8X-hpBY7w https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1ajTWGiUtiAv8X-hpBY7w -And here some documentation and the MVS distribution: http://wotho.ethz.ch/tk4-/ http://wotho.ethz.ch/tk4-/ -AND the fantastic bit-savers...enough reading material for a lifetime https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/ibm/370/ https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/ibm/370/ https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/ibm/390/ https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/pdf/ibm/390/ I wish you lots of fun, and thanks for saving some history ;)
  - bilegeek 5y ago
    To piggyback on your comment, Moshix also runs an HNET relay network with MVS nodes. Node name list: http://moshix.dynu.net/ http://moshix.dynu.net/ Web interface: http://relayserver.dynu.net/ http://relayserver.dynu.net/ About page: https://relayserver.dynu.net/about https://relayserver.dynu.net/about
ngcc_hk 5y ago
Not totally fair as you should compared with Tso at least. Or with ispf (major edit our NS still like it more for line editing and hence vi guy now but still ...). Of course you have vm. Having said that I was surprise after reading the Multics myth and its story against bell unix is that it is all pr. or the winner took it all. And sort of rewrite the history.
- nix23 5y ago
  I meant it's more approachable mainly because of the hierarchical filesystem, but yes your are right, unfair comparison.