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I disagree with this. I’d like to take a step back and even ask what a bad emotion really even means? That sounds a bit hand wavy. I like to get endorphins. I

I disagree with this. I’d like to take a step back and even ask what a bad emotion really even means? That sounds a bit hand wavy. I like to get endorphins. I like that the field I chose as a career can give me that when I feel like I did something well. I think an argument goes into pretty vague territory if one tries to argue that it’s more “good” when you get a nice feeling from helping others instead of feeling nice from your own work.

dmos62 5y ago
We know if an emotion is worse than another empirically. You'd rather feel joyful than ashamed, for example. You can aim for pride. That's fine. But there's better things. When you're prideful (self-inflating would be a good synonym) you're coming off as defensive. It begs the question why do you need that. The distinction between the "goods" I was talking about is a question of whether you're motivated by that defensiveness, or some sense of lack, or if it's an act of caring, or an act of joy, or whatever. There's a world of difference between those approaches to action.
- danparsonson 5y ago
  I think you're just debating semantics here really. The word 'pride' can be used to mean subtly different but related things, for example a) pride in a job well done, which is what I believe the other commenters here are referring to, is the feeling of taking pleasure in successfully producing a well-made (something), whereas b) pride in the sense of 'puffing oneself up' is holding and/or projecting an unrealistically high estimation of one's abilities, perhaps in an attempt to impress others - you could also refer to this as vanity I don't see a problem with a); taking pleasure in doing quality work doesn't preclude one from seeing potential areas of improvement and it doesn't have to be pathological (telling everyone else repeatedly how good your work is, for example, which tends towards b) ), it's more like an intrinsic source of motivation and joy.
  - dmos62 5y ago
    I agree. I am talking about that pride as in puffing oneself up.

dmos62 5y ago

We know if an emotion is worse than another empirically. You'd rather feel joyful than ashamed, for example. You can aim for pride. That's fine. But there's better things. When you're prideful (self-inflating would be a good synonym) you're coming off as defensive. It begs the question why do you need that. The distinction between the "goods" I was talking about is a question of whether you're motivated by that defensiveness, or some sense of lack, or if it's an act of caring, or an act of joy, or whatever. There's a world of difference between those approaches to action.

danparsonson 5y ago
I think you're just debating semantics here really. The word 'pride' can be used to mean subtly different but related things, for example a) pride in a job well done, which is what I believe the other commenters here are referring to, is the feeling of taking pleasure in successfully producing a well-made (something), whereas b) pride in the sense of 'puffing oneself up' is holding and/or projecting an unrealistically high estimation of one's abilities, perhaps in an attempt to impress others - you could also refer to this as vanity I don't see a problem with a); taking pleasure in doing quality work doesn't preclude one from seeing potential areas of improvement and it doesn't have to be pathological (telling everyone else repeatedly how good your work is, for example, which tends towards b) ), it's more like an intrinsic source of motivation and joy.
- dmos62 5y ago
  I agree. I am talking about that pride as in puffing oneself up.