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Lebanon is not a free democracy and I’m not sure what that has to do with this discussion anyway

by vxNsr 5y ago

colordrops 5y ago
There is a raft of talking points used to explain why Israel are right to behave so poorly. Many, if not most of these talking points are specious. A common one is that Israel is the only democracy in the middle east, which is absolutely not true. What does "Lebanon is not a free democracy" even mean? You can say the same about Israel. They have many laws and restrictions that are based around religion, and religious groups are very powerful. They enact apartheid, which is about as opposite of democracy as possible. Even if Lebanon has a troubled democracy, it's definitely better than what is happening in Israel. This trope needs to be retired.
- vxNsr 5y ago
  Every claim you’ve made here is false and again has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
  - colordrops 5y ago
    Typical response to this topic: just claim it's false and don't provide any argument or data as to why. Lebanon is a democracy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon Israel is a theocratic apartheid state: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-adopts-divisive-law-declares-only-jews-have-right-self-n892636 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-adopts-divisive-la... https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra...
    - vxNsr 5y ago
      Bringing HRW as a source immediately invalidates your argument, they have zero legitimacy when it comes to any topic involving Jews.
      - colordrops 5y ago
        There's nothing wrong with HRW. And even if there was, it doesn't invalidate NBC and Wikipedia.
        vxNsr 5y ago
        It does though, Wikipedia and NBC both use them as legit sources despite them spending 90% of their time on Israel and 0% of their time on real atrocities. If you have someone who can’t even honestly tell you what’s going on in NK but calls himself a global human rights advocate you know something is wrong.
        colordrops 5y ago
        If you are suggesting that the media is biased for the Palestinians over Israel then you aren't discussing in good faith and there's no point to this conversation.

Lebanon is not a free democracy and I’m not sure what that has to do with this discussion anyway

by vxNsr 5y ago

Lebanon is not a free democracy and I’m not sure what that has to do with this discussion anyway

There is a raft of talking points used to explain why Israel are right to behave so poorly. Many, if not most of these talking points are specious. A common one is that Israel is the only democracy in the middle east, which is absolutely not true. What does "Lebanon is not a free democracy" even mean? You can say the same about Israel. They have many laws and restrictions that are based around religion, and religious groups are very powerful. They enact apartheid, which is about as opposite of democracy as possible. Even if Lebanon has a troubled democracy, it's definitely better than what is happening in Israel. This trope needs to be retired.

vxNsr 5y ago
Every claim you’ve made here is false and again has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
- colordrops 5y ago
  Typical response to this topic: just claim it's false and don't provide any argument or data as to why. Lebanon is a democracy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Lebanon Israel is a theocratic apartheid state: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-adopts-divisive-law-declares-only-jews-have-right-self-n892636 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-adopts-divisive-la... https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra...
  - vxNsr 5y ago
    Bringing HRW as a source immediately invalidates your argument, they have zero legitimacy when it comes to any topic involving Jews.
    - colordrops 5y ago
      There's nothing wrong with HRW. And even if there was, it doesn't invalidate NBC and Wikipedia.
      - vxNsr 5y ago
        It does though, Wikipedia and NBC both use them as legit sources despite them spending 90% of their time on Israel and 0% of their time on real atrocities. If you have someone who can’t even honestly tell you what’s going on in NK but calls himself a global human rights advocate you know something is wrong.
        colordrops 5y ago
        If you are suggesting that the media is biased for the Palestinians over Israel then you aren't discussing in good faith and there's no point to this conversation.