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A laughable question from someone peddling baseless conspiracy theories. Common sense and simple observation of the world around me. Those polls (we seem to be

A laughable question from someone peddling baseless conspiracy theories. Common sense and simple observation of the world around me. Those polls (we seem to be straying dangerously close to "the blacks and the jews" level of hateful conspiracy theory, by the way) are not evidence for the cause of the creation of this legislation, nor even attempt any semblance of cause and effect. It might also help you get some perspective to keep in mind that those in actual positions of power (that's not Bob the unemployed coal miner from West Virginia who didn't finish highschool and goes to church once a week), spend considerable resources curating and influencing public opinion to their end. Consider, for example how many people were deluded into believing the baseless conspiracy theory that there existed ample evidence which proved Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election.

gruez 5y ago
> A laughable question from someone peddling baseless conspiracy theories. Common sense and simple observation of the world around me. and a laughable response from you. I presented my evidence. You failed to do so and decide to fall back on "common sense and simple observation". >Those polls (we seem to be straying dangerously close to "the blacks and the jews" level of hateful conspiracy theory, by the way) are not evidence for the cause of the creation of this legislation, nor even attempt any semblance of cause and effect. Your best response to the survey data is dismiss it saying it's tantamount to racism? >It might also help you get some perspective to keep in mind that those in actual positions of power (that's not Bob the unemployed coal miner from West Virginia who didn't finish highschool and goes to church once a week), spend considerable resources curating and influencing public opinion to their end. We literally still have "in god we trust" on our bills, added back in the 50s, despite being a secular country. Several states pushed creationism to be taught in schools as an alternative to creationism. I think you're underestimating how much impact evangelicals have. >Consider, for example how many people were deluded into believing the baseless conspiracy theory that there existed ample evidence which proved Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election. "hacked"? maybe not. Interfered? definitely. >The FBI's work was taken over in May 2017 by former FBI director Robert Mueller, who led a Special Counsel investigation until March 2019.[3] Mueller concluded that Russian interference was "sweeping and systematic" and "violated U.S. criminal law", and he indicted twenty-six Russian citizens and three Russian organizations. [...] The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first in their five-volume 1,313-page report in July 2019 in which they concluded that the January 2017 intelligence community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed". The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper", learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions".
- spankyspangler 5y ago
  You presented no evidence. Quoting some poll is not evidence for your deranged conspiracy theories. > We literally still have "in god we trust" on our bills, You seem hatefully fixated on things which really don't matter all that much. Why do you have to construct these vast strange conspiracy theories about the religious beliefs of some segment of the population? So you can have an excuse to hate them? Supporting Israel (note: that does not equate to the spontaneous creation of any laws) honestly doesn't seem like the world's biggest problem. America recently sponsored wars, genocides, toppling of governments in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan which seems a bit more problematic. Or do you blame the blacks and the Jews for those as well? > "hacked"? maybe not. Interfered? definitely. Wrong. There was no evidence ever produced indicating that Trump colluded with Putin to hack or interfere with the election, and the Mueller report quite explicitly stated that none was found. Another baseless conspiracy theory you have been deluded into believing.
  - gruez 5y ago
    > Quoting some poll is not evidence for your deranged conspiracy theories 1. We're discussing why a democratically elected government is behaving in a certain way. Citing polling data is a perfectly reasonable way to determine that, considering such governments are supposed to serve their voters' interests 2. You resorting to name caling (ie. "conspiracy", " deranged" is disrespectful and against site guidelines. If you can't refrain from that I'm going to have to disengage with you. >You seem hatefully fixated on things which really don't matter all that much. Banning high res satellite pictures matters even less >Why do you have to construct these vast strange conspiracy theories about the religious beliefs of some segment of the population? So you can have an excuse to hate them? >Supporting Israel (note: that does not equate to the spontaneous creation of any laws) honestly doesn't seem like the world's biggest problem. America recently sponsored wars, genocides, toppling of governments in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan which seems a bit more problematic. Or do you blame the blacks and the Jews for those as well? Not really a conspiracy when they admit that to pollsters. Also I have not expressed any hate at evangelicals or jews. That seems to be something that you're dreaming up.

gruez 5y ago

> A laughable question from someone peddling baseless conspiracy theories. Common sense and simple observation of the world around me. and a laughable response from you. I presented my evidence. You failed to do so and decide to fall back on "common sense and simple observation". >Those polls (we seem to be straying dangerously close to "the blacks and the jews" level of hateful conspiracy theory, by the way) are not evidence for the cause of the creation of this legislation, nor even attempt any semblance of cause and effect. Your best response to the survey data is dismiss it saying it's tantamount to racism? >It might also help you get some perspective to keep in mind that those in actual positions of power (that's not Bob the unemployed coal miner from West Virginia who didn't finish highschool and goes to church once a week), spend considerable resources curating and influencing public opinion to their end. We literally still have "in god we trust" on our bills, added back in the 50s, despite being a secular country. Several states pushed creationism to be taught in schools as an alternative to creationism. I think you're underestimating how much impact evangelicals have. >Consider, for example how many people were deluded into believing the baseless conspiracy theory that there existed ample evidence which proved Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election. "hacked"? maybe not. Interfered? definitely. >The FBI's work was taken over in May 2017 by former FBI director Robert Mueller, who led a Special Counsel investigation until March 2019.[3] Mueller concluded that Russian interference was "sweeping and systematic" and "violated U.S. criminal law", and he indicted twenty-six Russian citizens and three Russian organizations. [...] The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first in their five-volume 1,313-page report in July 2019 in which they concluded that the January 2017 intelligence community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed". The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper", learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions".

spankyspangler 5y ago
You presented no evidence. Quoting some poll is not evidence for your deranged conspiracy theories. > We literally still have "in god we trust" on our bills, You seem hatefully fixated on things which really don't matter all that much. Why do you have to construct these vast strange conspiracy theories about the religious beliefs of some segment of the population? So you can have an excuse to hate them? Supporting Israel (note: that does not equate to the spontaneous creation of any laws) honestly doesn't seem like the world's biggest problem. America recently sponsored wars, genocides, toppling of governments in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan which seems a bit more problematic. Or do you blame the blacks and the Jews for those as well? > "hacked"? maybe not. Interfered? definitely. Wrong. There was no evidence ever produced indicating that Trump colluded with Putin to hack or interfere with the election, and the Mueller report quite explicitly stated that none was found. Another baseless conspiracy theory you have been deluded into believing.
- gruez 5y ago
  > Quoting some poll is not evidence for your deranged conspiracy theories 1. We're discussing why a democratically elected government is behaving in a certain way. Citing polling data is a perfectly reasonable way to determine that, considering such governments are supposed to serve their voters' interests 2. You resorting to name caling (ie. "conspiracy", " deranged" is disrespectful and against site guidelines. If you can't refrain from that I'm going to have to disengage with you. >You seem hatefully fixated on things which really don't matter all that much. Banning high res satellite pictures matters even less >Why do you have to construct these vast strange conspiracy theories about the religious beliefs of some segment of the population? So you can have an excuse to hate them? >Supporting Israel (note: that does not equate to the spontaneous creation of any laws) honestly doesn't seem like the world's biggest problem. America recently sponsored wars, genocides, toppling of governments in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan which seems a bit more problematic. Or do you blame the blacks and the Jews for those as well? Not really a conspiracy when they admit that to pollsters. Also I have not expressed any hate at evangelicals or jews. That seems to be something that you're dreaming up.