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Seems to be on-par with antibody persistence (6 months) offered after second dose of mRNA-1273 vaccine[1]. US CDC seems to suggest vaccine to those who had COV

Seems to be on-par with antibody persistence (6 months) offered after second dose of mRNA-1273 vaccine[1]. US CDC seems to suggest vaccine to those who had COVID immediately after recovery[2]. Where as news sources claim WHO suggests 6 months after recovery[3]. [1]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2103916 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2103916 [2]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html [3]https://theprint.in/health/i-had-covid-when-should-i-get-vaccine-what-if-i-miss-second-dose-answers-to-these-more/652913/ https://theprint.in/health/i-had-covid-when-should-i-get-vac...

breck 5y ago
Wow. Thank you for sharing #2. "Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19." This is downright false. Someone should seriously sue the CDC. I don't understand how they can get away with this anti science, anti math, illogerate bullsh*t. We know far more about the long term protective effects from recovering than we do from the vaccine (1 in 1,000 long term reinfection rate so far—https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.06.21253051v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.06.21253051v...). I would send a pull request but the CDC is not on Git. What a sorry excuse for an organization they are.
- Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
  I've been tracking information on COVID related immunity as my parents are due second dose, I'm due first dose and we're all COVID +ve (India). My parents got infected after ~ 30days of first dose Astrazenica, I got from them immediately. I had COVID brain fog, they didn't face much symptoms(vaccine doing it's job?). Luckily we all seem to be recovering well. Now since we've got immunity and that evidence suggests that it should last at least 8 months we might delay the vaccine jabs as it's of extreme scarcity in the country and many vulnerable are waiting for it. But I would wish for a immunity research with larger study group with the mutant strains supposedly capable of immune escape properties as we're facing here. Because I'm willing to take the risk based on current data, But I don't want to be wrong in suggesting that my elderly parents delay their second jab.
  - breck 5y ago
    I have seen an overwhelming amount of evidence that if you've recovered you are safe. I have been tracking this since early February 2020. I think if you've recovered you can stop worrying about COVID, and I have seen nothing that makes me think the vaccine is worth it in the least if you've recovered. I would not worry about mutant strains either. It's a very genetically stable virus. Even though the numbers in India now are high, they are still significantly lower per capita than they were in the USA and UK last year. https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~ITA~IND https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...
    - Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
      >I have seen an overwhelming amount of evidence that if you've recovered you are safe. That's reassuring thank you. >Even though the numbers in India now are high, they are still significantly lower per capita than they were in the USA and UK last year. But there's consensus among the scientific community that it's being widely under-reported; At least 80-90% lesser than actual figures according to Dr. Ashish Jha dean of Brown University, School of Public Health[1]. P.S. Those who want to make a political comment for the above statement, I request you not to do so out of respect for the dead. I shared the information since we're discussing numbers and not for any political blame as Dr. Jha himself says. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_YPC-mQ5w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_YPC-mQ5w
      - breck 5y ago
        > But there's consensus among the scientific community that it's being widely under-reported Define consensus. I used to work at Our World in Data, so I am biased, but I would consider them the most trustworthy curator of data sources (for one, they are open source and open to pull requests). So while there indeed may be problems with the India data (and we were constantly switching to better sources as they appeared), I would trust their data sources more than any one person on YouTube.

breck 5y ago

Wow. Thank you for sharing #2. "Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19." This is downright false. Someone should seriously sue the CDC. I don't understand how they can get away with this anti science, anti math, illogerate bullsh*t. We know far more about the long term protective effects from recovering than we do from the vaccine (1 in 1,000 long term reinfection rate so far—https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.06.21253051v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.06.21253051v...). I would send a pull request but the CDC is not on Git. What a sorry excuse for an organization they are.

Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
I've been tracking information on COVID related immunity as my parents are due second dose, I'm due first dose and we're all COVID +ve (India). My parents got infected after ~ 30days of first dose Astrazenica, I got from them immediately. I had COVID brain fog, they didn't face much symptoms(vaccine doing it's job?). Luckily we all seem to be recovering well. Now since we've got immunity and that evidence suggests that it should last at least 8 months we might delay the vaccine jabs as it's of extreme scarcity in the country and many vulnerable are waiting for it. But I would wish for a immunity research with larger study group with the mutant strains supposedly capable of immune escape properties as we're facing here. Because I'm willing to take the risk based on current data, But I don't want to be wrong in suggesting that my elderly parents delay their second jab.
- breck 5y ago
  I have seen an overwhelming amount of evidence that if you've recovered you are safe. I have been tracking this since early February 2020. I think if you've recovered you can stop worrying about COVID, and I have seen nothing that makes me think the vaccine is worth it in the least if you've recovered. I would not worry about mutant strains either. It's a very genetically stable virus. Even though the numbers in India now are high, they are still significantly lower per capita than they were in the USA and UK last year. https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=USA~GBR~CAN~DEU~ITA~IND https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...
  - Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
    >I have seen an overwhelming amount of evidence that if you've recovered you are safe. That's reassuring thank you. >Even though the numbers in India now are high, they are still significantly lower per capita than they were in the USA and UK last year. But there's consensus among the scientific community that it's being widely under-reported; At least 80-90% lesser than actual figures according to Dr. Ashish Jha dean of Brown University, School of Public Health[1]. P.S. Those who want to make a political comment for the above statement, I request you not to do so out of respect for the dead. I shared the information since we're discussing numbers and not for any political blame as Dr. Jha himself says. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_YPC-mQ5w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_YPC-mQ5w
    - breck 5y ago
      > But there's consensus among the scientific community that it's being widely under-reported Define consensus. I used to work at Our World in Data, so I am biased, but I would consider them the most trustworthy curator of data sources (for one, they are open source and open to pull requests). So while there indeed may be problems with the India data (and we were constantly switching to better sources as they appeared), I would trust their data sources more than any one person on YouTube.