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It's bizarre that people make up this kind of hateful delusional convoluted conspiracy theory that allow the to hate "the all powerful white supremacist redneck

It's bizarre that people make up this kind of hateful delusional convoluted conspiracy theory that allow the to hate "the all powerful white supremacist rednecks", rather than open their eyes to the obvious reality that it is a matter of special interests, political lobbying/corruption and strategic interests, just like everything else. I guess it's evidence of the wildly successful divide and conquer campaign that has been inflicted upon people. I can assure you the people receiving wealth and power to make the decisions that lead to this kind of policy, nor the people paying them care in the slightest about "the rapture" or what your imagined church going enemies in "bumfuck nowhere" care about.

gruez 5y ago
What evidence do you have to support your claim? The public opinion section of the linked article seems to suggest that among evangelical christians it's an important issue. >A 2017 LifeWay poll conducted in United States found that 80% of evangelical Christians believed that the creation of Israel in 1948 was a fulfillment of biblical prophecy that would bring about Christ's return and more than 50% of Evangelical Christians believed that they support Israel because it is important for fulfilling the prophecy.[100] >According to the Pew Research survey in 2003, more than 60% of the Evangelical Christians and about 50% of Blacks agreed that the existence of Israel fulfilled biblical prophecy. About 55% of poll respondents said that the Bible was the biggest influence for supporting Israel which is 11 times the people who said church was the biggest influence.[100]
- spankyspangler 5y ago
  A laughable question from someone peddling baseless conspiracy theories. Common sense and simple observation of the world around me. Those polls (we seem to be straying dangerously close to "the blacks and the jews" level of hateful conspiracy theory, by the way) are not evidence for the cause of the creation of this legislation, nor even attempt any semblance of cause and effect. It might also help you get some perspective to keep in mind that those in actual positions of power (that's not Bob the unemployed coal miner from West Virginia who didn't finish highschool and goes to church once a week), spend considerable resources curating and influencing public opinion to their end. Consider, for example how many people were deluded into believing the baseless conspiracy theory that there existed ample evidence which proved Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election.
  - gruez 5y ago
    > A laughable question from someone peddling baseless conspiracy theories. Common sense and simple observation of the world around me. and a laughable response from you. I presented my evidence. You failed to do so and decide to fall back on "common sense and simple observation". >Those polls (we seem to be straying dangerously close to "the blacks and the jews" level of hateful conspiracy theory, by the way) are not evidence for the cause of the creation of this legislation, nor even attempt any semblance of cause and effect. Your best response to the survey data is dismiss it saying it's tantamount to racism? >It might also help you get some perspective to keep in mind that those in actual positions of power (that's not Bob the unemployed coal miner from West Virginia who didn't finish highschool and goes to church once a week), spend considerable resources curating and influencing public opinion to their end. We literally still have "in god we trust" on our bills, added back in the 50s, despite being a secular country. Several states pushed creationism to be taught in schools as an alternative to creationism. I think you're underestimating how much impact evangelicals have. >Consider, for example how many people were deluded into believing the baseless conspiracy theory that there existed ample evidence which proved Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election. "hacked"? maybe not. Interfered? definitely. >The FBI's work was taken over in May 2017 by former FBI director Robert Mueller, who led a Special Counsel investigation until March 2019.[3] Mueller concluded that Russian interference was "sweeping and systematic" and "violated U.S. criminal law", and he indicted twenty-six Russian citizens and three Russian organizations. [...] The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first in their five-volume 1,313-page report in July 2019 in which they concluded that the January 2017 intelligence community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed". The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper", learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions".
    - spankyspangler 5y ago
      You presented no evidence. Quoting some poll is not evidence for your deranged conspiracy theories. > We literally still have "in god we trust" on our bills, You seem hatefully fixated on things which really don't matter all that much. Why do you have to construct these vast strange conspiracy theories about the religious beliefs of some segment of the population? So you can have an excuse to hate them? Supporting Israel (note: that does not equate to the spontaneous creation of any laws) honestly doesn't seem like the world's biggest problem. America recently sponsored wars, genocides, toppling of governments in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan which seems a bit more problematic. Or do you blame the blacks and the Jews for those as well? > "hacked"? maybe not. Interfered? definitely. Wrong. There was no evidence ever produced indicating that Trump colluded with Putin to hack or interfere with the election, and the Mueller report quite explicitly stated that none was found. Another baseless conspiracy theory you have been deluded into believing.

gruez 5y ago

What evidence do you have to support your claim? The public opinion section of the linked article seems to suggest that among evangelical christians it's an important issue. >A 2017 LifeWay poll conducted in United States found that 80% of evangelical Christians believed that the creation of Israel in 1948 was a fulfillment of biblical prophecy that would bring about Christ's return and more than 50% of Evangelical Christians believed that they support Israel because it is important for fulfilling the prophecy.[100] >According to the Pew Research survey in 2003, more than 60% of the Evangelical Christians and about 50% of Blacks agreed that the existence of Israel fulfilled biblical prophecy. About 55% of poll respondents said that the Bible was the biggest influence for supporting Israel which is 11 times the people who said church was the biggest influence.[100]

spankyspangler 5y ago
A laughable question from someone peddling baseless conspiracy theories. Common sense and simple observation of the world around me. Those polls (we seem to be straying dangerously close to "the blacks and the jews" level of hateful conspiracy theory, by the way) are not evidence for the cause of the creation of this legislation, nor even attempt any semblance of cause and effect. It might also help you get some perspective to keep in mind that those in actual positions of power (that's not Bob the unemployed coal miner from West Virginia who didn't finish highschool and goes to church once a week), spend considerable resources curating and influencing public opinion to their end. Consider, for example how many people were deluded into believing the baseless conspiracy theory that there existed ample evidence which proved Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election.
- gruez 5y ago
  > A laughable question from someone peddling baseless conspiracy theories. Common sense and simple observation of the world around me. and a laughable response from you. I presented my evidence. You failed to do so and decide to fall back on "common sense and simple observation". >Those polls (we seem to be straying dangerously close to "the blacks and the jews" level of hateful conspiracy theory, by the way) are not evidence for the cause of the creation of this legislation, nor even attempt any semblance of cause and effect. Your best response to the survey data is dismiss it saying it's tantamount to racism? >It might also help you get some perspective to keep in mind that those in actual positions of power (that's not Bob the unemployed coal miner from West Virginia who didn't finish highschool and goes to church once a week), spend considerable resources curating and influencing public opinion to their end. We literally still have "in god we trust" on our bills, added back in the 50s, despite being a secular country. Several states pushed creationism to be taught in schools as an alternative to creationism. I think you're underestimating how much impact evangelicals have. >Consider, for example how many people were deluded into believing the baseless conspiracy theory that there existed ample evidence which proved Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election. "hacked"? maybe not. Interfered? definitely. >The FBI's work was taken over in May 2017 by former FBI director Robert Mueller, who led a Special Counsel investigation until March 2019.[3] Mueller concluded that Russian interference was "sweeping and systematic" and "violated U.S. criminal law", and he indicted twenty-six Russian citizens and three Russian organizations. [...] The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first in their five-volume 1,313-page report in July 2019 in which they concluded that the January 2017 intelligence community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed". The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper", learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions".
  - spankyspangler 5y ago
    You presented no evidence. Quoting some poll is not evidence for your deranged conspiracy theories. > We literally still have "in god we trust" on our bills, You seem hatefully fixated on things which really don't matter all that much. Why do you have to construct these vast strange conspiracy theories about the religious beliefs of some segment of the population? So you can have an excuse to hate them? Supporting Israel (note: that does not equate to the spontaneous creation of any laws) honestly doesn't seem like the world's biggest problem. America recently sponsored wars, genocides, toppling of governments in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan which seems a bit more problematic. Or do you blame the blacks and the Jews for those as well? > "hacked"? maybe not. Interfered? definitely. Wrong. There was no evidence ever produced indicating that Trump colluded with Putin to hack or interfere with the election, and the Mueller report quite explicitly stated that none was found. Another baseless conspiracy theory you have been deluded into believing.