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How much are we talking about? The chance I mean

by tnzm 5y ago

JetAlone 5y ago
You know that's a decent question. If I had the time to do some research I'd look at them and point you to a bunch of studies comparing reported levels of mental health among retirees and maybe ideally some insights on how people in the FIRE movement feel after accomplishing their goal and not working anymore. Then you could have the concrete statistics you seem to want. What I'd totally expect to find is that, even moreso than old people retiring and feeling a sense of meaninglessness, people who stop working while they're still in their prime working years will grow listless because we're meant to do more, we're meant to take on challenge, maybe even a sacrifice. That the same inner and outer factors that make us depressed at our jobs are actually just also making us depressed generally and reflect an inner pathology where we view ourselves as hopeless, inferior, lost or stuck. But the info really isn't coming to me at a glance, I don't have time to really do that research, and I don't think I'd be any happier if I did. Unless someone else with the free time and scientific literacy to peruse to a week-old post comes by and contributes the data with a decisive percent chance to this discussion, you either trust my intuition that there's a substantial but hard-to-nail down effect where we're miserable on account of more than our jobs and an unspecified "many" could have all our needs met but still be miserable because you feel what I'm talking about too, or you have your own intuition about the nature of our sense of well-being and work and want to question it. Given a quick glance at your post history you seem like a well-intentioned firebrand of a libertarian who gets downvoted a lot, and I can respect you for that. I 100% sincerely hope you and everyone else on here reading this has an absolutely fantastic day.

4 ms·

How much are we talking about? The chance I mean

by tnzm 5y ago

How much are we talking about? The chance I mean

JetAlone 5y ago
You know that's a decent question. If I had the time to do some research I'd look at them and point you to a bunch of studies comparing reported levels of mental health among retirees and maybe ideally some insights on how people in the FIRE movement feel after accomplishing their goal and not working anymore. Then you could have the concrete statistics you seem to want. What I'd totally expect to find is that, even moreso than old people retiring and feeling a sense of meaninglessness, people who stop working while they're still in their prime working years will grow listless because we're meant to do more, we're meant to take on challenge, maybe even a sacrifice. That the same inner and outer factors that make us depressed at our jobs are actually just also making us depressed generally and reflect an inner pathology where we view ourselves as hopeless, inferior, lost or stuck. But the info really isn't coming to me at a glance, I don't have time to really do that research, and I don't think I'd be any happier if I did. Unless someone else with the free time and scientific literacy to peruse to a week-old post comes by and contributes the data with a decisive percent chance to this discussion, you either trust my intuition that there's a substantial but hard-to-nail down effect where we're miserable on account of more than our jobs and an unspecified "many" could have all our needs met but still be miserable because you feel what I'm talking about too, or you have your own intuition about the nature of our sense of well-being and work and want to question it. Given a quick glance at your post history you seem like a well-intentioned firebrand of a libertarian who gets downvoted a lot, and I can respect you for that. I 100% sincerely hope you and everyone else on here reading this has an absolutely fantastic day.