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Those measures don't sound like they'll be very effective if an AirTag is planted on the underside of a vehicle.

fastball 5y ago
No offense, but this is lunacy. People are not going to use AirTags to more effectively stalk people than the existing GPS trackers on the market. GPS tracker would be much better in fact.
- jfoster 5y ago
  Every device has its own characteristics. AirTag: Very economical (no monthly fee), 1 year battery life, no line-of-sight required, easily purchased without attracting attention or providing an address, unguaranteed data freshness, size of a coin. GPS tracker: Monthly fees, 1 month battery life, line-of-sight required, slightly unusual thing to purchase & may be difficult to obtain without supplying an address, usually better data freshness, at least as big as a box of tic tacs. It's not that AirTags would always be ideal for stalking, but considering the ease of availability & use, it's definitely going to happen. The most interesting part is that Apple decided to release this product. It's only a matter of time until AirTags are linked to a case of stalking (whether the best device for it or not) and when that article gets written, it's simply not going to be aligned with the brand image they typically aim for.
  - samatman 5y ago
    You forgot to mention: rats the stalker out immediately if the stalkee has an iOS device, or the first time someone with an iPhone hops in the car if they use Android. The latter isn't something under the stalker's control, it's just a really poor tool for that particular type of antisocial behavior. Plus it's tied to your Apple account, so we're talking about getting a fresh iPhone and ginning up an account, or leaking exactly who is doing the stalking. The number of people who will try it isn't zero, we don't live in that kind of world. I don't picture it going very well for them.
    - mschuster91 5y ago
      > Plus it's tied to your Apple account, so we're talking about getting a fresh iPhone and ginning up an account, or leaking exactly who is doing the stalking. iPhones can be grabbed used for fairly low prices, same for Apple accounts.
      - user-the-name 5y ago
        As can GPS trackers.

No offense, but this is lunacy. People are not going to use AirTags to more effectively stalk people than the existing GPS trackers on the market. GPS tracker would be much better in fact.

jfoster 5y ago
Every device has its own characteristics. AirTag: Very economical (no monthly fee), 1 year battery life, no line-of-sight required, easily purchased without attracting attention or providing an address, unguaranteed data freshness, size of a coin. GPS tracker: Monthly fees, 1 month battery life, line-of-sight required, slightly unusual thing to purchase & may be difficult to obtain without supplying an address, usually better data freshness, at least as big as a box of tic tacs. It's not that AirTags would always be ideal for stalking, but considering the ease of availability & use, it's definitely going to happen. The most interesting part is that Apple decided to release this product. It's only a matter of time until AirTags are linked to a case of stalking (whether the best device for it or not) and when that article gets written, it's simply not going to be aligned with the brand image they typically aim for.
- samatman 5y ago
  You forgot to mention: rats the stalker out immediately if the stalkee has an iOS device, or the first time someone with an iPhone hops in the car if they use Android. The latter isn't something under the stalker's control, it's just a really poor tool for that particular type of antisocial behavior. Plus it's tied to your Apple account, so we're talking about getting a fresh iPhone and ginning up an account, or leaking exactly who is doing the stalking. The number of people who will try it isn't zero, we don't live in that kind of world. I don't picture it going very well for them.
  - mschuster91 5y ago
    > Plus it's tied to your Apple account, so we're talking about getting a fresh iPhone and ginning up an account, or leaking exactly who is doing the stalking. iPhones can be grabbed used for fairly low prices, same for Apple accounts.
    - user-the-name 5y ago
      As can GPS trackers.