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I would like to know as well. Depending on the size of the company it may be easier to get special treatment. We’ve heard from top-down that we need to be back

I would like to know as well. Depending on the size of the company it may be easier to get special treatment. We’ve heard from top-down that we need to be back in the office and there’s been no special treatment given other than some allusions to a hybrid workweek compromise. The only way I think it would be possible at a large company would be to engage in some sort of wfh soft-strike collectively. With enough employees, leadership will listen. I think that if you don’t organize you’ll have to go along with the rest of the company. This is of course something dangerous to even discuss if you value your job. On an individual level, JP Morgan will not let even their top employees wfh just because it will weaken their stance.

codingdave 5y ago
> This is of course something dangerous to even discuss if you value your job. If you cannot even talk about your work environment, that must be quite the dystopian workplace. Most decent places I've worked, that is one of the most common topics when talking to your boss. Maybe those talks don't go anywhere, but if it is a taboo topic, it might be better to work elsewhere.
- daniellarusso 5y ago
  I think parent meant coordinating a labor strike, as far as dangerous topics of work discussion.
o-__-o 5y ago
It’s almost like JP Morgan has a vested interest in the success of commercial real estate. HMMMMMMM
- hparadiz 5y ago
  Sales and finance attracts extroverts. They are likely in favor of returning to the office like all the extroverts at my work currently are. They did company lunch today in person. All vaxed though.
- bidirectional 5y ago
  No, it's just front office finance (particularly IBD and S&T) is more effective in person in ways that software development isn't. And if the front office guys need to come in, then so do the developers.
dontwannabe 5y ago
Thanks for making JP Morgan's stance on WFH. I am thinking of switching jobs and this is helpful information.
- tsukikage 5y ago
  Do bear in mind that JPM is enormous - 250k people isn't a size you associate with a company, it's a small country! - and although the rhetoric from the top is that everyone should be in the office because teamwork synergy efficiency managementspeak, individual departments may have more flexibility than this; although certainly fully remote is a very very unlikely option to say the least, arrangements where one works from home some of the time on a regular basis were possible even before covid.
  - dontwannabe 5y ago
    > although the rhetoric from the top is that everyone should be in the office... In a software org, employees who don't code are always against Work From Home. Especially Middle Managers. If the top management is not pro remote work, there is less hope.

codingdave 5y ago

> This is of course something dangerous to even discuss if you value your job. If you cannot even talk about your work environment, that must be quite the dystopian workplace. Most decent places I've worked, that is one of the most common topics when talking to your boss. Maybe those talks don't go anywhere, but if it is a taboo topic, it might be better to work elsewhere.

daniellarusso 5y ago
I think parent meant coordinating a labor strike, as far as dangerous topics of work discussion.

o-__-o 5y ago

It’s almost like JP Morgan has a vested interest in the success of commercial real estate. HMMMMMMM

hparadiz 5y ago
Sales and finance attracts extroverts. They are likely in favor of returning to the office like all the extroverts at my work currently are. They did company lunch today in person. All vaxed though.
bidirectional 5y ago
No, it's just front office finance (particularly IBD and S&T) is more effective in person in ways that software development isn't. And if the front office guys need to come in, then so do the developers.

dontwannabe 5y ago

Thanks for making JP Morgan's stance on WFH. I am thinking of switching jobs and this is helpful information.

tsukikage 5y ago
Do bear in mind that JPM is enormous - 250k people isn't a size you associate with a company, it's a small country! - and although the rhetoric from the top is that everyone should be in the office because teamwork synergy efficiency managementspeak, individual departments may have more flexibility than this; although certainly fully remote is a very very unlikely option to say the least, arrangements where one works from home some of the time on a regular basis were possible even before covid.
- dontwannabe 5y ago
  > although the rhetoric from the top is that everyone should be in the office... In a software org, employees who don't code are always against Work From Home. Especially Middle Managers. If the top management is not pro remote work, there is less hope.