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> When the iPhone first launched I never would have imagined how locked down it is now. When the iPhone first launched, it had no App Store at all. Apple came

> When the iPhone first launched I never would have imagined how locked down it is now. When the iPhone first launched, it had no App Store at all. Apple came out a few months later and said "hey, just write web apps." And when they did open an App Store, it was even more restricted and limited in capability than what we have now. Was there seriously anything about the iPhone at any point in its history that made you think "boy, this is gonna be as open as all get out any day now?" > Why do you hate freedom? As much as find "I love the fact that Apple restricts my choices! Woo!" annoying, this kind of self-righteous and insulting rhetoric is not an improvement. Being willing to accept the limitations of iOS does not mean someone "hates freedom". Come on.

hparadiz 5y ago
If someone told you that they need to restrict freedom of speech to increase the security of the state you'd probably be rightly miffed. This same argument is being used to stifle my freedom to run the programs that I want to run on a device I supposedly own. My freedom. Now you may sugar coat it anyway you like but essentially your opinion is costing me my freedom. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Example: I want an Apple Watch. Requires an apple phone to operate. I can't run open source apps I use daily on iOS. Ergo facto no liberty. Honestly 2020s tech blows in so many ways. We fucked up. Go back. Lol
- jaywalk 5y ago
  You can't compare Apple to the government. Apple does not have any ability to compel you to do anything, and in fact you have many other options besides using their products. With the government... not so much.
- katbyte 5y ago
  > restrict freedom of speech to increase the security of the state In some countries they do, in mine three categories of speech including hateful speech are prohibited

hparadiz 5y ago

If someone told you that they need to restrict freedom of speech to increase the security of the state you'd probably be rightly miffed. This same argument is being used to stifle my freedom to run the programs that I want to run on a device I supposedly own. My freedom. Now you may sugar coat it anyway you like but essentially your opinion is costing me my freedom. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Example: I want an Apple Watch. Requires an apple phone to operate. I can't run open source apps I use daily on iOS. Ergo facto no liberty. Honestly 2020s tech blows in so many ways. We fucked up. Go back. Lol

jaywalk 5y ago
You can't compare Apple to the government. Apple does not have any ability to compel you to do anything, and in fact you have many other options besides using their products. With the government... not so much.
katbyte 5y ago
> restrict freedom of speech to increase the security of the state In some countries they do, in mine three categories of speech including hateful speech are prohibited