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> It’s inhumanely degrading. Hyperbole much? There are a lot of inhumane, degrading things in this world. TikTok videos are not one of them. Anyways, clearly

> It’s inhumanely degrading. Hyperbole much? There are a lot of inhumane, degrading things in this world. TikTok videos are not one of them. Anyways, clearly some people thought it would be cool and interesting. I think this will be an interesting alternative for those that don’t do well with resumes. Fortunately, no one is going to make you use this, so I don’t know why everyone here is acting like it will be forced on them. This is obviously a secondary application method, one that will work particularly well for creative or extroverted types.

mc32 5y ago
It’s only a few steps removed from a tryout at a strip club. I’m sure a class of hiring “managers” will like this option.
- xvector 5y ago
  Short-video clips are a few steps removed from a tryout at a strip club? Can’t tell if sarcasm - surely you realize how absurd this sounds? It is simply a different way for candidates to express themselves.
  - mc32 5y ago
    When you’re initiating an interview process and it begins with a video snippet where the candidates “sell themselves”, it necessarily highlights photogenic candidates as well as exposes their ticks. This may well skew hirings toward the younger demographic.
    - yaml-ops-guy 5y ago
      When you put it like that...I still think the strip club comparison was weird because I can think of at least one other other common and far less contentious career-path with an interview/try-out process similar to this: Acting. Is there perhaps something deeper you want to say about sex workers that’s going unsaid right now?
      - mc32 5y ago
        Acting is apt; however, at least in principle you’re doing a screen test given you want to ensure acting ability as well as photogeneity. But we also know the colloquial acting couch. Strip clubs don’t care what your skills are, they mostly look for the eye candy their clientele seeks. Video is similar in that it doesn’t care about skills other than maybe being able to present yourself at the cost of all other attributes.
        yaml-ops-guy 5y ago
        There are a lot of really interesting assumptions and projections being made about a number of classes of people going on in this mindset. But okay. Thanks for clarifying and sharing your perspective.
        mc32 5y ago
        Well, we’ll have to wait and see how it gets used but I see potential for this being abused. It’s not different from TV news vs Daily newspaper. One is more fluff than the other. When was the last time you saw an “ugly” news anchor. In the papers you don’t care what the reporter looks like. During a sit down interview you at least have a chance to make your argument if the interviewer has misconceived something or it needs elaboration.
        yaml-ops-guy 5y ago
        >When was the last time you saw an “ugly” news anchor. In the papers you don’t care what the reporter looks like. To be completely honest, I don't care what the reporter looks like in either case. But I'm going to presume this was a rhetorical question and not meant as a reply or question to my specific manner of news consumption? You'll have to forgive me (or, well you don't have to, that's up to you) but this still feels like putting the career carriage in front of the job prospect horse to me-for some reason. Perhaps said another way: none of what you said speaks to me to be a problem with the medium of interviewing (in this case video, ostensibly via tiktok), but instead rather the individuals participating in the process. I can't quite pin down why, but it's a very strong sensation. I'll take this elsewhere and find a way to reconcile it without going turtles all the way down here in the thread.
    - shreyansj 5y ago
      It's quite normal in a lot of countries to include a picture with the resume/CV. The "photogenic" bias could exist in the process as well, yeah?
      - mc32 5y ago
        Yes, German women agree this is problematic.
    - EvilEy3 5y ago
      So pretty much like real word interview, or what? Also photogenic characters are at an extreme disadvantage with people like you, who have prejudice against them. So everything evens out in the end.
  - oytis 5y ago
    Tryout is at the extreme side of being intimate and without any due distance at all. CV is is impersonal and as much distance as you can get. Videos are in between. Is it still absurd?
selfhoster11 5y ago
> Hyperbole much? There are a lot of inhumane, degrading things in this world. There are degrees of inhumane and degrading. Sure, there are plenty of worse things than having to apply via a video CV on Tiktok, but that's a difference in magnitude and not a difference in kind.

mc32 5y ago

It’s only a few steps removed from a tryout at a strip club. I’m sure a class of hiring “managers” will like this option.

xvector 5y ago
Short-video clips are a few steps removed from a tryout at a strip club? Can’t tell if sarcasm - surely you realize how absurd this sounds? It is simply a different way for candidates to express themselves.
- mc32 5y ago
  When you’re initiating an interview process and it begins with a video snippet where the candidates “sell themselves”, it necessarily highlights photogenic candidates as well as exposes their ticks. This may well skew hirings toward the younger demographic.
  - yaml-ops-guy 5y ago
    When you put it like that...I still think the strip club comparison was weird because I can think of at least one other other common and far less contentious career-path with an interview/try-out process similar to this: Acting. Is there perhaps something deeper you want to say about sex workers that’s going unsaid right now?
    - mc32 5y ago
      Acting is apt; however, at least in principle you’re doing a screen test given you want to ensure acting ability as well as photogeneity. But we also know the colloquial acting couch. Strip clubs don’t care what your skills are, they mostly look for the eye candy their clientele seeks. Video is similar in that it doesn’t care about skills other than maybe being able to present yourself at the cost of all other attributes.
      - yaml-ops-guy 5y ago
        There are a lot of really interesting assumptions and projections being made about a number of classes of people going on in this mindset. But okay. Thanks for clarifying and sharing your perspective.
        mc32 5y ago
        Well, we’ll have to wait and see how it gets used but I see potential for this being abused. It’s not different from TV news vs Daily newspaper. One is more fluff than the other. When was the last time you saw an “ugly” news anchor. In the papers you don’t care what the reporter looks like. During a sit down interview you at least have a chance to make your argument if the interviewer has misconceived something or it needs elaboration.
        yaml-ops-guy 5y ago
        >When was the last time you saw an “ugly” news anchor. In the papers you don’t care what the reporter looks like. To be completely honest, I don't care what the reporter looks like in either case. But I'm going to presume this was a rhetorical question and not meant as a reply or question to my specific manner of news consumption? You'll have to forgive me (or, well you don't have to, that's up to you) but this still feels like putting the career carriage in front of the job prospect horse to me-for some reason. Perhaps said another way: none of what you said speaks to me to be a problem with the medium of interviewing (in this case video, ostensibly via tiktok), but instead rather the individuals participating in the process. I can't quite pin down why, but it's a very strong sensation. I'll take this elsewhere and find a way to reconcile it without going turtles all the way down here in the thread.
  - shreyansj 5y ago
    It's quite normal in a lot of countries to include a picture with the resume/CV. The "photogenic" bias could exist in the process as well, yeah?
    - mc32 5y ago
      Yes, German women agree this is problematic.
  - EvilEy3 5y ago
    So pretty much like real word interview, or what? Also photogenic characters are at an extreme disadvantage with people like you, who have prejudice against them. So everything evens out in the end.
- oytis 5y ago
  Tryout is at the extreme side of being intimate and without any due distance at all. CV is is impersonal and as much distance as you can get. Videos are in between. Is it still absurd?

selfhoster11 5y ago

> Hyperbole much? There are a lot of inhumane, degrading things in this world. There are degrees of inhumane and degrading. Sure, there are plenty of worse things than having to apply via a video CV on Tiktok, but that's a difference in magnitude and not a difference in kind.