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Its not that discrimination doesnt exist, but it isnt TikToks job to solve it. If the amount of discrimination remains the same between traditional job seeking

by Gunax 5y ago

Its not that discrimination doesnt exist, but it isnt TikToks job to solve it. If the amount of discrimination remains the same between traditional job seeking and Tiktok, then i dont see an issue.

ipaddr 5y ago
It is our jobs to call out the discrimination this creates for minorities. Tiktok isn't being asked to end discrimination. Selling a product who's main feature is discrimination is unacceptable. A normal jobs finds keywords on resumes, filters by experiece and education. Tiktok filters by looks and race and then calls people in for an interview.
dangus 5y ago
My argument is that TikTok is making it worse, not better, not the same. The status quo is that a paper/PDF resume is the initial screening method. An employer committed to removing hiring bias could have the recruitment department strip personal identifiers like the name before handing the resume to the hiring manager. Now, instead of that, you have a video of the person. Now you’re subconsciously judging everything: how the person looks, speaks, dresses, and even the decorations in their house. Obviously, there’s potential for bias as soon as you see a person in real life or hear them speak. That’s going to happen at most jobs at some point. However, this TikTok service introduces new methods of bias to the initial screening process that didn’t exist previously.
lkbm 5y ago
I'm sure we have that, but it's the second filter, after the resumes have provided the first filter. Moving it to step one seems like it would exacerbate the problem. That is, you'll get better results (in terms of hiring competent employees) if you find out whether the person is physically attractive after you've already anchored on whether they're qualified in a more objective manner. Resumes aren't great at giving you an accurate anchor, but better than nothing, imo. I'm reminded of a recent study on speed dating that found that higher physical attractiveness increased people's perception of ones intelligence: https://psyarxiv.com/ewvny/ https://psyarxiv.com/ewvny/ (Just to note, I'm not particularly opposed to TikTok's service as a new avenue to try, but I do agree with the OP that it could make various discriminatory biases worse, and we should be aware of that risk.)

by Gunax 5y ago

Its not that discrimination doesnt exist, but it isnt TikToks job to solve it. If the amount of discrimination remains the same between traditional job seeking and Tiktok, then i dont see an issue.

ipaddr 5y ago

It is our jobs to call out the discrimination this creates for minorities. Tiktok isn't being asked to end discrimination. Selling a product who's main feature is discrimination is unacceptable. A normal jobs finds keywords on resumes, filters by experiece and education. Tiktok filters by looks and race and then calls people in for an interview.

dangus 5y ago

My argument is that TikTok is making it worse, not better, not the same. The status quo is that a paper/PDF resume is the initial screening method. An employer committed to removing hiring bias could have the recruitment department strip personal identifiers like the name before handing the resume to the hiring manager. Now, instead of that, you have a video of the person. Now you’re subconsciously judging everything: how the person looks, speaks, dresses, and even the decorations in their house. Obviously, there’s potential for bias as soon as you see a person in real life or hear them speak. That’s going to happen at most jobs at some point. However, this TikTok service introduces new methods of bias to the initial screening process that didn’t exist previously.

lkbm 5y ago

I'm sure we have that, but it's the second filter, after the resumes have provided the first filter. Moving it to step one seems like it would exacerbate the problem. That is, you'll get better results (in terms of hiring competent employees) if you find out whether the person is physically attractive after you've already anchored on whether they're qualified in a more objective manner. Resumes aren't great at giving you an accurate anchor, but better than nothing, imo. I'm reminded of a recent study on speed dating that found that higher physical attractiveness increased people's perception of ones intelligence: https://psyarxiv.com/ewvny/ https://psyarxiv.com/ewvny/ (Just to note, I'm not particularly opposed to TikTok's service as a new avenue to try, but I do agree with the OP that it could make various discriminatory biases worse, and we should be aware of that risk.)