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Even if we had a demographically ‘fair’ recommender, a normal recommender is super top heavy. Telling 1000 companies person x is great is not very useful to the

Even if we had a demographically ‘fair’ recommender, a normal recommender is super top heavy. Telling 1000 companies person x is great is not very useful to them or the rest of candidates. I would expect this system to need some heavy limiting of amount of companies a candidate sees for it to be useful. Very different than typical recommendation where a great video can be thousands or millions of views.

nrmitchi 5y ago
Ya, a perfect recommender for the "best" candidate on some qualitative set of metrics would not be discriminatory (unless the underlying metrics were). It definitely wouldn't be useful. Hiring isn't a popularity problem as much as a matching problem.
mrtksn 5y ago
> Telling 1000 companies person x is great That’s the beauty of TikTok. the rich don’t necessarily get richer. You will often be presented with fresh people, AFAIK they spread out new content to measure response. It’s not really the type of platform that everyone watches the same most popular people. It’s refreshing that doesn’t push for “more from the same” .
- Mehdi2277 5y ago
  I used to work at tiktok on recommendation. While we definitely do better exploration than some places there’s still a very clear top heavy bias. Part of that is just content quality. A lot of content is worse than others for any form of media. But while we are better at showing small things than say youtube, there remain very clear tiktok stars. Even for smaller areas you will still have some creators lead in that area.
  - mrtksn 5y ago
    I get quite a bit fresh content in the sense that it’s fresh for me(but popular otherwise) or fresh content that has a very few views and likes. In contrast, twitter is horrible because I’m in a bubble and everyone I’m exposed to is there to push their agenda. Instagram is fine but it’s essentially place where people I know and I don’t know pretend to be living the good life. It’s boring. The content discovery never worked for me. Youtube is actually great in terms of content but the discovery revolves around the “more from the same” which makes discovery of something fresh pretty hard. TikTok is not perfect but it’s the only platform that actually seems to create a stream of stuff that I like and are not the same. So , congrats.

nrmitchi 5y ago

Ya, a perfect recommender for the "best" candidate on some qualitative set of metrics would not be discriminatory (unless the underlying metrics were). It definitely wouldn't be useful. Hiring isn't a popularity problem as much as a matching problem.

mrtksn 5y ago

> Telling 1000 companies person x is great That’s the beauty of TikTok. the rich don’t necessarily get richer. You will often be presented with fresh people, AFAIK they spread out new content to measure response. It’s not really the type of platform that everyone watches the same most popular people. It’s refreshing that doesn’t push for “more from the same” .

Mehdi2277 5y ago
I used to work at tiktok on recommendation. While we definitely do better exploration than some places there’s still a very clear top heavy bias. Part of that is just content quality. A lot of content is worse than others for any form of media. But while we are better at showing small things than say youtube, there remain very clear tiktok stars. Even for smaller areas you will still have some creators lead in that area.
- mrtksn 5y ago
  I get quite a bit fresh content in the sense that it’s fresh for me(but popular otherwise) or fresh content that has a very few views and likes. In contrast, twitter is horrible because I’m in a bubble and everyone I’m exposed to is there to push their agenda. Instagram is fine but it’s essentially place where people I know and I don’t know pretend to be living the good life. It’s boring. The content discovery never worked for me. Youtube is actually great in terms of content but the discovery revolves around the “more from the same” which makes discovery of something fresh pretty hard. TikTok is not perfect but it’s the only platform that actually seems to create a stream of stuff that I like and are not the same. So , congrats.