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I have no horse in this race but where are comments like this coming from, in response to this: >I'm just going to be explicit. In 2020, Henry created 12 issue

I have no horse in this race but where are comments like this coming from, in response to this: >I'm just going to be explicit. In 2020, Henry created 12 issues, commented 25 times, and created 29 pull requests. This is across all Babel orgs. 100k+ for a year of that sounds pretty cushy. he didn't say that he did "only" 1 or 2 PRs a week or something. where are these hyperbolic comments in response coming from? what other kind of work could have possibly been done in addition to this meager amount of code work to justify such a salary?

ceejayoz 5y ago
Management? Fundraising? There's more to running an organization than just coding.
- thrdbndndn 5y ago
  That makes sense for a normal size organization but they literally only have three employees. And the majority of the fund raised was used for his salary. If anything, it's not fair at all for the other two who did the substantial work and only earn 2k per month. (To be fair they have changed the distribution this year.)
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    The organization is substantially larger than just its paid employees. https://babeljs.io/team https://babeljs.io/team
    - thrdbndndn 5y ago
      I'm sorry but how does this not sound worse? "My job is to manage a team of employees who code." vs "my job is to manage a team of unpaid volunteers who code, while I earn a proper salary".
      - ceejayoz 5y ago
        Managing volunteers is still real work - sometimes more so. It's hardly uncommon for non-profits to have paid staff managing volunteers.
        thrdbndndn 5y ago
        I'm not doubting it's real work; just that why other people in the same team have to volunteer (or being underpaid in case of the other two employees), while a single person is paid "properly"?
        ceejayoz 5y ago
        The article answers this. > In November 2019, after successfully paying Henry a salary for over a year, we expanded our goal to also support three additional maintainers: Jùnliàng, Kai, and Nicolò. They started with one paid salary. Tried to expand that. Didn't get enough money to do so; now they're asking (fairly, IMO) for the community that treats them as critical infrastructure to pony up.

ceejayoz 5y ago

Management? Fundraising? There's more to running an organization than just coding.

thrdbndndn 5y ago
That makes sense for a normal size organization but they literally only have three employees. And the majority of the fund raised was used for his salary. If anything, it's not fair at all for the other two who did the substantial work and only earn 2k per month. (To be fair they have changed the distribution this year.)
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  The organization is substantially larger than just its paid employees. https://babeljs.io/team https://babeljs.io/team
  - thrdbndndn 5y ago
    I'm sorry but how does this not sound worse? "My job is to manage a team of employees who code." vs "my job is to manage a team of unpaid volunteers who code, while I earn a proper salary".
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      Managing volunteers is still real work - sometimes more so. It's hardly uncommon for non-profits to have paid staff managing volunteers.
      - thrdbndndn 5y ago
        I'm not doubting it's real work; just that why other people in the same team have to volunteer (or being underpaid in case of the other two employees), while a single person is paid "properly"?
        ceejayoz 5y ago
        The article answers this. > In November 2019, after successfully paying Henry a salary for over a year, we expanded our goal to also support three additional maintainers: Jùnliàng, Kai, and Nicolò. They started with one paid salary. Tried to expand that. Didn't get enough money to do so; now they're asking (fairly, IMO) for the community that treats them as critical infrastructure to pony up.