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How so? You can still use remote/local machines to develop. People use(including myself) great success apps like Blink Shell(https://blink.sh https://blink.sh),

by monkin 5y ago

How so? You can still use remote/local machines to develop. People use(including myself) great success apps like Blink Shell(https://blink.sh https://blink.sh), Inspect Browser(https://apps.pdyn.net/inspect/ https://apps.pdyn.net/inspect/) or code-server(https://github.com/cdr/code-server https://github.com/cdr/code-server) to work full time on iPad. By full time I mean #iPadOnly way. I do JS front-ends, back-ends in Go, I design in Figma(https://figurative.design/ https://figurative.design/) and Affinity Designer/Photo. For coding my daily driver is Blink Shell(They released a free community edition if you want to try: https://community.blink.sh https://community.blink.sh) with Mosh. I never had a feeling that my terminal is just connected to VPS. Whenever I open Blink, everything is still there as I left it. Slow connection? No problem with Mosh. Constantly changing networks or IP addresses? You will not lose a connection even for a minute. After a long year after the switch to my only device at home, I can tell you that I never looked back nor needed any other machine. Maybe it doesn’t cover everyone’s needs, but you can’t say it’s close to zero. Most of current development can be done on it. :-)

brigandish 5y ago
I was curious so went to the Blink website and I am very confused. The initial strapline is enticing, "Connect to your cloud on the go, or code all day from the beach." so I read more: > With Mosh and SSH, Blink is rock-solid, fast, and your all-day-long companion. Okay, it's starting to get crowded but I want to know more so I scroll down to get some details: > Mosh was built for constant mobile connectivity. Isn't this the Blink site? Or is it also called Mosh? Why am I getting the history of an app/service/Lord-knows-what before being told what it is? > You can flawlessly jump from home, to the train, and then to the office thanks to Mosh. Still on about Mosh and not only is there not a peep about what it is, I still don't know what Blink is. > Blink is rock-solid connected all the way. Now we're back to Blink. What is it? Doesn't matter, it's good! Trust us, the people who won't tell you what it is. What is Mosh? Who knows! If I guess that Blink is a shell and Mosh is some kind of networking facility will I a) be correct, and b) have guessed more detail about them in a few words than their home page tells me? Disappointing.
- monkin 5y ago
  The only thing disappointing here is your comment about ONE block on the whole page that talks about connectivity, and you present it as a complete website. The website itself maybe is little outdated but does a great job telling what Blink does and what tech it uses to make your life easier.
  - brigandish 5y ago
    There's nothing on that whole page that addresses my complaints, why do you think I'm going to spend time delving into the rest of the site when the writers of that page clearly don't care about wasting my time? - Tell me what it is - Tell me why it exists - Stop with the ad copy and buzzwords until the first 2 points have been addressed That's what I want from a landing page / home page.
    - LucidLynx 5y ago
      > - Tell me what it is "THE PRO TERMINAL FOR iOS & iPadOS", from the front page. > - Tell me why it exists " You bought the latest Pro device, loved it, and then you wondered... …Can I use it to replace my laptop? Yes, you can Blink was built as the tool we wanted to use all day. We were tired of User Interfaces being on our way, and of connections that couldn’t even last for 5 minutes... ", from the front page too. > - Stop with the ad copy and buzzwords until the first 2 points have been addressed They have been.
      - brigandish 5y ago
        > "THE PRO TERMINAL FOR iOS & iPadOS", from the front page. Then what's Mosh? Why bring it up? > " You bought the latest Pro device, loved it, and then you wondered... > …Can I use it to replace my laptop? No, I didn't but I know it's supposed to be appealing. The original comment about it was more appealing than that line. Still. > Yes, you can Can I? Because I can "code all day from the beach"? (which doesn't sound fun, actually) It's facetious, it's anodyne while striving to be zippy, and worst of all, it's meaningless. I've seen half-arsed Github READMEs that are more informative. Do I really have to pull out alternatives to show the difference? Okay then. There is ZeroTier[1], which I'm going to guess is a Mosh equivalent as I have zero (ha) desire to find out any more about Mosh. This is their initial blurb: > Connect team members from anywhere in the world on any device. > ZeroTier creates secure networks between on-premise, cloud, desktop, and mobile devices. Now that answers my questions and the rest of the page goes into more detail. Now for a shell - let's take Fish[2] because I've heard about it but never bothered with it. This will be fun… > fish is a smart and user-friendly command line shell for Linux, macOS, and the rest of the family. It then goes into features which is an indirect answer to the why so I'll give them half marks there. Oops, my mistake, it's a terminal we need. Since I use iTerm[3] nowadays: > What is iTerm2? > iTerm2 is a replacement for Terminal and the successor to iTerm. It works on Macs with macOS 10.14 or newer. iTerm2 brings the terminal into the modern age with features you never knew you always wanted. > Why Do I Want It? > Check out the impressive features and screenshots. If you spend a lot of time in a terminal, then you'll appreciate all the little things that add up to a lot. It is free software and you can find the source code on Github. It's like they read my mind, or they actually followed a very simple recipe that I had hoped most people were aware of. I think this can be improved but it's still miles better than the copy Blink is using. I'd suggest employing this bloke[4], or taking some of the advice given out by fellow HNers there. [1] https://www.zerotier.com/ https://www.zerotier.com/ [2] https://fishshell.com/ https://fishshell.com/ [3] https://iterm2.com/ https://iterm2.com/ [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26842191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26842191
philips 5y ago
I have really been enjoying the SSH experience with ShellFish. In particular the SCP/file integration. https://secureshellfish.app/ https://secureshellfish.app/
cmelbye 5y ago
Is this better in any way than just using a Mac? iPad is just as powerful as a MacBook Air, and costs about the same. But with the keyboard/trackpad case, it's thicker, heavier, and less ergonomic. And the workflow becomes useless when, for example, you don't have internet connection.
- monkin 5y ago
  It’s different… and for me in many ways better. I have 12.9 Pro model from 2020 with only folio case and pen. I own an external keyboard but only use it at home. I also have SIM, so more or less I have always a decent internet connection no matter where I am. Feat that is impossible with MBP without hotspot from iPhone. ;-) Yet, the whole magic for me is in applications, having native app for Netflix, HBO, Reddit (Apollo) is a game changer for someone who used only Safari, Figma nad iTerm2 in full screen on a Mac, and rest was just browser based stuff. I could lie down and read some news, respond to tweets, scroll through Reddit, code in Blink and design using pen and Figurative at the same time watching Netflix without having a MBP on my laps baking my balls. ;-) And, yes, external keyboard isn’t as bad as most people tell.
smoldesu 5y ago
If your argument is that "the iPad is great for puppeting other machines to develop with", I'd honestly rather just carry around a laptop.

by monkin 5y ago

brigandish 5y ago

I was curious so went to the Blink website and I am very confused. The initial strapline is enticing, "Connect to your cloud on the go, or code all day from the beach." so I read more: > With Mosh and SSH, Blink is rock-solid, fast, and your all-day-long companion. Okay, it's starting to get crowded but I want to know more so I scroll down to get some details: > Mosh was built for constant mobile connectivity. Isn't this the Blink site? Or is it also called Mosh? Why am I getting the history of an app/service/Lord-knows-what before being told what it is? > You can flawlessly jump from home, to the train, and then to the office thanks to Mosh. Still on about Mosh and not only is there not a peep about what it is, I still don't know what Blink is. > Blink is rock-solid connected all the way. Now we're back to Blink. What is it? Doesn't matter, it's good! Trust us, the people who won't tell you what it is. What is Mosh? Who knows! If I guess that Blink is a shell and Mosh is some kind of networking facility will I a) be correct, and b) have guessed more detail about them in a few words than their home page tells me? Disappointing.

monkin 5y ago
The only thing disappointing here is your comment about ONE block on the whole page that talks about connectivity, and you present it as a complete website. The website itself maybe is little outdated but does a great job telling what Blink does and what tech it uses to make your life easier.
- brigandish 5y ago
  There's nothing on that whole page that addresses my complaints, why do you think I'm going to spend time delving into the rest of the site when the writers of that page clearly don't care about wasting my time? - Tell me what it is - Tell me why it exists - Stop with the ad copy and buzzwords until the first 2 points have been addressed That's what I want from a landing page / home page.
  - LucidLynx 5y ago
    > - Tell me what it is "THE PRO TERMINAL FOR iOS & iPadOS", from the front page. > - Tell me why it exists " You bought the latest Pro device, loved it, and then you wondered... …Can I use it to replace my laptop? Yes, you can Blink was built as the tool we wanted to use all day. We were tired of User Interfaces being on our way, and of connections that couldn’t even last for 5 minutes... ", from the front page too. > - Stop with the ad copy and buzzwords until the first 2 points have been addressed They have been.
    - brigandish 5y ago
      > "THE PRO TERMINAL FOR iOS & iPadOS", from the front page. Then what's Mosh? Why bring it up? > " You bought the latest Pro device, loved it, and then you wondered... > …Can I use it to replace my laptop? No, I didn't but I know it's supposed to be appealing. The original comment about it was more appealing than that line. Still. > Yes, you can Can I? Because I can "code all day from the beach"? (which doesn't sound fun, actually) It's facetious, it's anodyne while striving to be zippy, and worst of all, it's meaningless. I've seen half-arsed Github READMEs that are more informative. Do I really have to pull out alternatives to show the difference? Okay then. There is ZeroTier[1], which I'm going to guess is a Mosh equivalent as I have zero (ha) desire to find out any more about Mosh. This is their initial blurb: > Connect team members from anywhere in the world on any device. > ZeroTier creates secure networks between on-premise, cloud, desktop, and mobile devices. Now that answers my questions and the rest of the page goes into more detail. Now for a shell - let's take Fish[2] because I've heard about it but never bothered with it. This will be fun… > fish is a smart and user-friendly command line shell for Linux, macOS, and the rest of the family. It then goes into features which is an indirect answer to the why so I'll give them half marks there. Oops, my mistake, it's a terminal we need. Since I use iTerm[3] nowadays: > What is iTerm2? > iTerm2 is a replacement for Terminal and the successor to iTerm. It works on Macs with macOS 10.14 or newer. iTerm2 brings the terminal into the modern age with features you never knew you always wanted. > Why Do I Want It? > Check out the impressive features and screenshots. If you spend a lot of time in a terminal, then you'll appreciate all the little things that add up to a lot. It is free software and you can find the source code on Github. It's like they read my mind, or they actually followed a very simple recipe that I had hoped most people were aware of. I think this can be improved but it's still miles better than the copy Blink is using. I'd suggest employing this bloke[4], or taking some of the advice given out by fellow HNers there. [1] https://www.zerotier.com/ https://www.zerotier.com/ [2] https://fishshell.com/ https://fishshell.com/ [3] https://iterm2.com/ https://iterm2.com/ [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26842191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26842191

philips 5y ago

I have really been enjoying the SSH experience with ShellFish. In particular the SCP/file integration. https://secureshellfish.app/ https://secureshellfish.app/

cmelbye 5y ago

Is this better in any way than just using a Mac? iPad is just as powerful as a MacBook Air, and costs about the same. But with the keyboard/trackpad case, it's thicker, heavier, and less ergonomic. And the workflow becomes useless when, for example, you don't have internet connection.

monkin 5y ago
It’s different… and for me in many ways better. I have 12.9 Pro model from 2020 with only folio case and pen. I own an external keyboard but only use it at home. I also have SIM, so more or less I have always a decent internet connection no matter where I am. Feat that is impossible with MBP without hotspot from iPhone. ;-) Yet, the whole magic for me is in applications, having native app for Netflix, HBO, Reddit (Apollo) is a game changer for someone who used only Safari, Figma nad iTerm2 in full screen on a Mac, and rest was just browser based stuff. I could lie down and read some news, respond to tweets, scroll through Reddit, code in Blink and design using pen and Figurative at the same time watching Netflix without having a MBP on my laps baking my balls. ;-) And, yes, external keyboard isn’t as bad as most people tell.

smoldesu 5y ago

If your argument is that "the iPad is great for puppeting other machines to develop with", I'd honestly rather just carry around a laptop.