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The gist of the allegation: "I'm just going to be explicit. In 2020, Henry created 12 issues, commented 25 times, and created 29 pull requests. This is across

by omega3 5y ago

The gist of the allegation: "I'm just going to be explicit. In 2020, Henry created 12 issues, commented 25 times, and created 29 pull requests. This is across all Babel orgs." "Sorry but that's DEFINITELY not $132k worth of work. Especially when there are other contributors who are working for free doing much more. Obviously everything isn't on GitHub, there's work in private but it is representative."

yuppie_scum 5y ago
There’s six figure slackers at a lot of companies.
- darkcha0s 5y ago
  Companies have a lot of money, and a lot of it to burn. OSS doesn't.
teachingassist 5y ago
I understand that the tweeter is the original author of Babel - as such, I find this a little bit embarrassing. The author originally had 100% control of governance and management decisions, and personally chose exactly how to delegate those. A single person's salary (and the public disclosure of it) has created massive point of political tension for the project. I think that's a bigger problem than the perceived waste of $.
- _fat_santa 5y ago
  Yeah I also don't understand why this wasn't handled sooner. He said that in February the dev only made a small number of issues and no commits, I feel like the issue should have been caught there.
  - teachingassist 5y ago
    There's also a question of - what's the job description? Henry makes it clear in a March 2018 blogpost that he doesn't see it as a primarily coding job, and his Twitter bio describes him as 'steward', not 'developer'. https://www.henryzoo.com/in-pursuit-of-open-source-part-1/ https://www.henryzoo.com/in-pursuit-of-open-source-part-1/ https://twitter.com/left_pad https://twitter.com/left_pad So, why is he being taken to task on only quantity of code as a measure?
    - prepend 5y ago
      OP called out PRs and comments, not just code. I’m not familiar with this project, but there’s a lot of stuff required for projects that isn’t coding but still shows up in GitHub’s activity. Even basic stuff like doing demos and updating customer stuff shows up as updates to the web site and notes on presentations and stuff. Unless someone’s job is just sending email and talking on the phone, I’d expect some visibility. Not for tracking purposes, but for community engagement since it’s the best way to clarify requests, produce roadmap info, etc.
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by omega3 5y ago

yuppie_scum 5y ago

There’s six figure slackers at a lot of companies.

darkcha0s 5y ago
Companies have a lot of money, and a lot of it to burn. OSS doesn't.

teachingassist 5y ago

I understand that the tweeter is the original author of Babel - as such, I find this a little bit embarrassing. The author originally had 100% control of governance and management decisions, and personally chose exactly how to delegate those. A single person's salary (and the public disclosure of it) has created massive point of political tension for the project. I think that's a bigger problem than the perceived waste of $.

_fat_santa 5y ago
Yeah I also don't understand why this wasn't handled sooner. He said that in February the dev only made a small number of issues and no commits, I feel like the issue should have been caught there.
- teachingassist 5y ago
  There's also a question of - what's the job description? Henry makes it clear in a March 2018 blogpost that he doesn't see it as a primarily coding job, and his Twitter bio describes him as 'steward', not 'developer'. https://www.henryzoo.com/in-pursuit-of-open-source-part-1/ https://www.henryzoo.com/in-pursuit-of-open-source-part-1/ https://twitter.com/left_pad https://twitter.com/left_pad So, why is he being taken to task on only quantity of code as a measure?
  - prepend 5y ago
    OP called out PRs and comments, not just code. I’m not familiar with this project, but there’s a lot of stuff required for projects that isn’t coding but still shows up in GitHub’s activity. Even basic stuff like doing demos and updating customer stuff shows up as updates to the web site and notes on presentations and stuff. Unless someone’s job is just sending email and talking on the phone, I’d expect some visibility. Not for tracking purposes, but for community engagement since it’s the best way to clarify requests, produce roadmap info, etc.
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