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That doesn’t explain why you can’t buy them on Amazon.co.I’m > The only reason they were going for $179 previously is because thermoworks was buying the thermo

That doesn’t explain why you can’t buy them on Amazon.co.I’m > The only reason they were going for $179 previously is because thermoworks was buying the thermometers from sellers and reporting them as counterfeit. Thus making it difficult for sellers to sell them which keeps supply low. That’s a pretty severe accusation to throw around - have any proof to back it up?

jjeaff 5y ago
It happened to me. The name of the purchaser came up in a Google search as an employee of Thermoworks.
- fireflash38 5y ago
  So let me get this straight, you were selling thermapens on amazon, and therefore have a dog in the fight?
  - joshuaissac 5y ago
    If you exclude everyone who has a dog in the fight, then who is left to give their evidence?
    - smeyer 5y ago
      You don't have to exclude everyone who has a dog in the fight, but it's a bit rich to open up their post with "what thermoworks doesn't tell you is..." but then leave out their own involvement in the market.
      - ryanlol 5y ago
        Only a bit rich if you believe that he is actually selling counterfeits.
jjeaff 5y ago
There are a bunch for sale on amazon.co.uk https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01MQN9MLL/ref=psdcmw_3187139031_t1_B076DGSTQB https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01MQN9MLL/ref=psdcmw_31871...
- tomnipotent 5y ago
  Only seller available is ETI. How is this evidence?
  - jjeaff 5y ago
    Amazon does allow companies to register their brand and prohibit others from selling it on amazon. Or maybe ETI is pulling the same stunt and claiming resellers are selling counterfeits when they are actually just reselling the same product.
    - StreamBright 5y ago
      This sounds great in theory and we know how it works in practice. Amazon head 2M counterfeit items to destroy in 2020 only. What do you think how many counterfeit items were sold on Amazon in the last 10 years? They joust found 10 billion items. Nothing to see here, the policy that you are referring to is working perfectly. These numbers are a tiny fraction. Right? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/05/amazon-seized-and-destroyed-2-million-counterfeit-products-in-2020/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/05/amazon-seized-an... https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-has-ceded-control-of-its-site-the-result-thousands-of-banned-unsafe-or-mislabeled-products-11566564990 https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-has-ceded-control-of-its... https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/amazon-blocked-10-billion-listings-counterfeit-crackdown-rcna875 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/amazon-blocked-10-bil...
      - canadianfella 5y ago
        Your poor grammar makes your sarcasm hard to read.
    - 5y ago
tonyb 5y ago
I'm a professional cook (I do professional BBQ competitions and own a food truck) and I own at least 5 Thermapens and several other Thermoworks products. For me the Thermapen is worth every penny to me. It's fast, accurate, and reliable. I know that if I pick it up it is going to work and that alone is worth a premium. I've also had good experiences with their customer service - they will replace or repair them with little or no hassle. Yes they are expensive but my oldest Thermapen is at least 10 years old. If you keep an eye out it's not hard to get them 25% off or more.
- opk 5y ago
  Excuse my complete ignorance but how does measuring the temperature of food help you with cooking? When I do a BBQ, I've only ever judged by colour and appearance. Usually the challenge is not to burn the outside while the inside is undercooked.
  - Vrondi 5y ago
    In every modern recipe for cooking almost any type of meat, there is an internal temperature listed at which the meat can officially be considered "safely" done. Restaurants, etc., have to follow such guidelines per government food safety standards.
  - noodlenotes 5y ago
    Not a professional, but I find meat thermometers even more useful because I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what every type of meat looks and feels like when cooked, especially with different marinades and seasonings changing the appearance. I also hate overcooked meat. With a thermometer I can try a new technique and always pull the meat off at the right time. I'm also more comfortable letting the outside get crispy if I know I'm not overcooking the inside.
  - tonyb 5y ago
    Everything I cook is temperature + feel. For example on pork once it hits 200-205 (depending on what temp I'm cooking at, the higher the cook temp the higher the finish temp) the thermapen becomes an expensive toothpick to feel for tenderness. Color is used as a element when I might move on to the next step but not at all for when it is done - for example I wrap pork once it hits 160 + has the color I want. It has to be a repeatable processes, especially if you are doing it commercially and you need to train other people. Temperature is a measurable thing vs look or feel which is subjective. For some things accuracy is extra important, one or two degrees won't make or break a pork but but can greatly impact something like steak.

jjeaff 5y ago

It happened to me. The name of the purchaser came up in a Google search as an employee of Thermoworks.

fireflash38 5y ago
So let me get this straight, you were selling thermapens on amazon, and therefore have a dog in the fight?
- joshuaissac 5y ago
  If you exclude everyone who has a dog in the fight, then who is left to give their evidence?
  - smeyer 5y ago
    You don't have to exclude everyone who has a dog in the fight, but it's a bit rich to open up their post with "what thermoworks doesn't tell you is..." but then leave out their own involvement in the market.
    - ryanlol 5y ago
      Only a bit rich if you believe that he is actually selling counterfeits.

jjeaff 5y ago

There are a bunch for sale on amazon.co.uk https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01MQN9MLL/ref=psdcmw_3187139031_t1_B076DGSTQB https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01MQN9MLL/ref=psdcmw_31871...

tomnipotent 5y ago
Only seller available is ETI. How is this evidence?
- jjeaff 5y ago
  Amazon does allow companies to register their brand and prohibit others from selling it on amazon. Or maybe ETI is pulling the same stunt and claiming resellers are selling counterfeits when they are actually just reselling the same product.
  - StreamBright 5y ago
    This sounds great in theory and we know how it works in practice. Amazon head 2M counterfeit items to destroy in 2020 only. What do you think how many counterfeit items were sold on Amazon in the last 10 years? They joust found 10 billion items. Nothing to see here, the policy that you are referring to is working perfectly. These numbers are a tiny fraction. Right? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/05/amazon-seized-and-destroyed-2-million-counterfeit-products-in-2020/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/05/amazon-seized-an... https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-has-ceded-control-of-its-site-the-result-thousands-of-banned-unsafe-or-mislabeled-products-11566564990 https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-has-ceded-control-of-its... https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/amazon-blocked-10-billion-listings-counterfeit-crackdown-rcna875 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/amazon-blocked-10-bil...
    - canadianfella 5y ago
      Your poor grammar makes your sarcasm hard to read.
  - 5y ago

tonyb 5y ago

I'm a professional cook (I do professional BBQ competitions and own a food truck) and I own at least 5 Thermapens and several other Thermoworks products. For me the Thermapen is worth every penny to me. It's fast, accurate, and reliable. I know that if I pick it up it is going to work and that alone is worth a premium. I've also had good experiences with their customer service - they will replace or repair them with little or no hassle. Yes they are expensive but my oldest Thermapen is at least 10 years old. If you keep an eye out it's not hard to get them 25% off or more.

opk 5y ago
Excuse my complete ignorance but how does measuring the temperature of food help you with cooking? When I do a BBQ, I've only ever judged by colour and appearance. Usually the challenge is not to burn the outside while the inside is undercooked.
- Vrondi 5y ago
  In every modern recipe for cooking almost any type of meat, there is an internal temperature listed at which the meat can officially be considered "safely" done. Restaurants, etc., have to follow such guidelines per government food safety standards.
- noodlenotes 5y ago
  Not a professional, but I find meat thermometers even more useful because I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what every type of meat looks and feels like when cooked, especially with different marinades and seasonings changing the appearance. I also hate overcooked meat. With a thermometer I can try a new technique and always pull the meat off at the right time. I'm also more comfortable letting the outside get crispy if I know I'm not overcooking the inside.
- tonyb 5y ago
  Everything I cook is temperature + feel. For example on pork once it hits 200-205 (depending on what temp I'm cooking at, the higher the cook temp the higher the finish temp) the thermapen becomes an expensive toothpick to feel for tenderness. Color is used as a element when I might move on to the next step but not at all for when it is done - for example I wrap pork once it hits 160 + has the color I want. It has to be a repeatable processes, especially if you are doing it commercially and you need to train other people. Temperature is a measurable thing vs look or feel which is subjective. For some things accuracy is extra important, one or two degrees won't make or break a pork but but can greatly impact something like steak.