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The short answer is, it's tough to do it on a single income that's 150k as a family. The lower you are the tougher it gets. There is a reason why even the lowes

The short answer is, it's tough to do it on a single income that's 150k as a family. The lower you are the tougher it gets. There is a reason why even the lowest of the city employees get paid six figure salaries, a plumber charges you $250 and driving lessons are $60/hour. For example, in the city of San Fracisco, to qualify as "low income household", the limit is almost $120k for a family of 4 or $82k for a single person.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> There is a reason why even the lowest of the city employees get paid six figure salaries Er, they don't. The median, not lowest, pay for employees of the City and County of San Francisco is barely into six figures. [0] The lowest pay categories (calculated by annualizing the biweekly max,so this is probably a slight overestimate) pay $36,114/yr, which is far short of 6 figures. [1] [0] https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2019/san-francisco/summary/ https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2019/san-francisc... [1] https://sfdhr.org/sites/default/files/documents/Classification-and-Compensation/Hourly-Rates-of-Pay-by-Classification-and-Step-FY20-21.xlsx https://sfdhr.org/sites/default/files/documents/Classificati...
- darth_avocado 6y ago
  Okay, maybe lowest was not the best word to be used. What I meant was a lot of the city employees get paid six figure salary. And that's because it's expensive to live here. Comparing game dev salaries from the bay area to UK kind of misses that point. Sure those numbers exist, because the city has to have pay scales for every job category, but I think the more important thing to ask is what percentage of the workers are actually low paid employees. I couldn't find a report that would easily displays that info, but here's a news item from a couple years back where 75% of the bay area city employees were earning 6 figures. [0] Another question you want to ask is what positions exist in that excel spreadsheet, do people even take those jobs full time and what percentage of people do sit in that spectrum? For example here's another story that reports a starting wage of almost 50k for a Janitor. Of course there's going to be a few jobs that exist in lower end of the spectrum, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that it's expensive to live here and therefore, you shouldn't compare high salaries in the bay with others elsewhere one to one. [1] [0]https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/fairfield/75-percent-of-bay-area-city-workers-get-100000-or-more-in-total-compensation/ https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/fairfi... [1]https://sfist.com/2016/08/29/san_franciscos_city_worker_salaries/ https://sfist.com/2016/08/29/san_franciscos_city_worker_sala...

dragonwriter 6y ago

> There is a reason why even the lowest of the city employees get paid six figure salaries Er, they don't. The median, not lowest, pay for employees of the City and County of San Francisco is barely into six figures. [0] The lowest pay categories (calculated by annualizing the biweekly max,so this is probably a slight overestimate) pay $36,114/yr, which is far short of 6 figures. [1] [0] https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2019/san-francisco/summary/ https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2019/san-francisc... [1] https://sfdhr.org/sites/default/files/documents/Classification-and-Compensation/Hourly-Rates-of-Pay-by-Classification-and-Step-FY20-21.xlsx https://sfdhr.org/sites/default/files/documents/Classificati...

darth_avocado 6y ago
Okay, maybe lowest was not the best word to be used. What I meant was a lot of the city employees get paid six figure salary. And that's because it's expensive to live here. Comparing game dev salaries from the bay area to UK kind of misses that point. Sure those numbers exist, because the city has to have pay scales for every job category, but I think the more important thing to ask is what percentage of the workers are actually low paid employees. I couldn't find a report that would easily displays that info, but here's a news item from a couple years back where 75% of the bay area city employees were earning 6 figures. [0] Another question you want to ask is what positions exist in that excel spreadsheet, do people even take those jobs full time and what percentage of people do sit in that spectrum? For example here's another story that reports a starting wage of almost 50k for a Janitor. Of course there's going to be a few jobs that exist in lower end of the spectrum, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that it's expensive to live here and therefore, you shouldn't compare high salaries in the bay with others elsewhere one to one. [1] [0]https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/fairfield/75-percent-of-bay-area-city-workers-get-100000-or-more-in-total-compensation/ https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/fairfi... [1]https://sfist.com/2016/08/29/san_franciscos_city_worker_salaries/ https://sfist.com/2016/08/29/san_franciscos_city_worker_sala...