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I'm looking at the table you cite, and it's listing side effects such as headache, fatigue, and chills. "Severe reactions" makes it sounds like they had serious

I'm looking at the table you cite, and it's listing side effects such as headache, fatigue, and chills. "Severe reactions" makes it sounds like they had serious adverse events. If 2% of kids get severe headache, fatigue, or chills for a day or so, so what? And I say that as the mother of a 14-year-old who is planning to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

lettergram 5y ago
1. The virus has less of an impact (~0% fatal and very likely to have minimal to no symptoms) 2. We don’t know the long term effects of the vaccine. But we do know the long term effects of corona viruses (not specifically COVID19, but we can infer). 3. The vaccine isn’t 100% effective as it is, so while you mitigate short term risk, long term is likely higher with the vaccine given the estimated short term protection (implying multiple / yearly vaccines necessary) and relative risk of the virus (basically 0%) vs the vaccine (2% risk of severe incident)
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- Redoubts 5y ago
  > not specifically COVID19, but we can infer You can’t do this with the vaccines too? Especially in the realm of long-term-sleeper side effects? > relative risk of the virus (basically 0%) vs the vaccine (2% risk of severe incident) I guess the problem here is your time frame is one month, rather than years out.
  - lettergram 5y ago
    mRNA is a new vaccine type, need at least 3-5 years imo
pokstad 5y ago
So what? The chance of getting severe reactions from the actual virus is much lower for kids. Why would you make your children take something that is riskier than the thing it protects against?
- echelon 5y ago
  Because Covid kills grandma.
  - pokstad 5y ago
    Then grandma can get the vaccine. Why is this still an issue? Everyone in the US that wanted a vaccine, got it. Only a tiny portion of people are incapable of receiving it. The death toll dropped immediately. We don’t need herd immunity since the vaccine is so effective.
    - echelon 5y ago
      But that's the thing. If everyone isn't helping, then this virus continues to mutate and spread through the human reservoir. We won't reach herd immunity. By not vaccinating, you're contributing to the problem at some nonzero level. Unless you're on an island away from the world.
      - pokstad 5y ago
        From what I understand, this ain’t going away. All the medical experts are saying this will be a seasonal thing like the flu.
        allturtles 5y ago
        One of the primary reasons experts are predicting that herd immunity won't happen because too many people are reluctant to get the vaccine. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunit...

lettergram 5y ago

1. The virus has less of an impact (~0% fatal and very likely to have minimal to no symptoms) 2. We don’t know the long term effects of the vaccine. But we do know the long term effects of corona viruses (not specifically COVID19, but we can infer). 3. The vaccine isn’t 100% effective as it is, so while you mitigate short term risk, long term is likely higher with the vaccine given the estimated short term protection (implying multiple / yearly vaccines necessary) and relative risk of the virus (basically 0%) vs the vaccine (2% risk of severe incident)

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Redoubts 5y ago
> not specifically COVID19, but we can infer You can’t do this with the vaccines too? Especially in the realm of long-term-sleeper side effects? > relative risk of the virus (basically 0%) vs the vaccine (2% risk of severe incident) I guess the problem here is your time frame is one month, rather than years out.
- lettergram 5y ago
  mRNA is a new vaccine type, need at least 3-5 years imo

pokstad 5y ago

So what? The chance of getting severe reactions from the actual virus is much lower for kids. Why would you make your children take something that is riskier than the thing it protects against?

echelon 5y ago
Because Covid kills grandma.
- pokstad 5y ago
  Then grandma can get the vaccine. Why is this still an issue? Everyone in the US that wanted a vaccine, got it. Only a tiny portion of people are incapable of receiving it. The death toll dropped immediately. We don’t need herd immunity since the vaccine is so effective.
  - echelon 5y ago
    But that's the thing. If everyone isn't helping, then this virus continues to mutate and spread through the human reservoir. We won't reach herd immunity. By not vaccinating, you're contributing to the problem at some nonzero level. Unless you're on an island away from the world.
    - pokstad 5y ago
      From what I understand, this ain’t going away. All the medical experts are saying this will be a seasonal thing like the flu.
      - allturtles 5y ago
        One of the primary reasons experts are predicting that herd immunity won't happen because too many people are reluctant to get the vaccine. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunity-vaccine.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/health/covid-herd-immunit...