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For that to happen, we'd need a company to invest into good UI/UX. As long as I have to DuckDuck to find the button for creating a new folder in Nautilus ... de

For that to happen, we'd need a company to invest into good UI/UX. As long as I have to DuckDuck to find the button for creating a new folder in Nautilus ... desktop Linux will remain a niche.

hnlmorg 6y ago
There's plenty of good UI/UX outside of GNOME. Personally I find the UI/UX in KDE to be better than Windows and macOS's desktop managers. Each to their own and all that though.
- bogwog 6y ago
  > There's plenty of good UI/UX outside of GNOME. True, but keep in mind that GNOME sets the bar very very low.
meibo 6y ago
Look at Chinese Android phones: They get away with slapping an unresponsive and confusing shell onto their phones and still sell millions. I wouldn't be surprised if this will happen for Laptops soon as well, with custom in-house DEs. Imagine that Chinese OEMs will be happy to get rid of Windows.
- zibzab 6y ago
  Not a fan of chinees phones. But have you used a mordern oppo, Huawei or xiaomi recently?
  - schmorptron 6y ago
    yeah, modern miui seems surprisingly well thought-out and designed in some areas, with small details like rippling animations
lobstrosity420 6y ago
>As long as I have to DuckDuck to find the button for creating a new folder in Nautilus Lol. Hyperbole or brain damage?
redisman 6y ago
Ubuntu is pretty much there UI/UX wise for example. If Samsung provides top notch firmware then I don’t see any problems with a Linux laptop and would want one myself
- anaganisk 6y ago
  I dont think so, compared to Mac Os or Windows ubuntu doesn't even come close in terms of UI/UX. PopOs or Elementary feel much more polished.
  - otabdeveloper4 6y ago
    > feel much more polished 'Polish' is the last thing users care about. If it wasn't true Windows and Android wouldn't be the most popular operating systems over decades and decades.
    - zibzab 6y ago
      I find gnome more consistent and polished than Windows 10. They have done some wise design choices and created a fairly minimal environment that looks decent and not the confusing chaosWindows can be. The point is, better UX does not always win.
      - anaganisk 6y ago
        Again thats your personal preference, if you give a linux desktop and a windows desktop to an avg person for a week, Im sure they would pick Windows since thats what they can easily identify their workflows with. Linux distros have a long way to go before they're mass adopted. Im from India, and a while ago when, Student laptops offered by few universities had Ubuntu as default OS. Windows installation is the first thing they did.
    - anaganisk 6y ago
      Around the windows and android days, they were the only mass used OSes. Linux has to compete with Mac UX which normal users find very good also windows UX is so imprinted into people. So by polished I meant that.
jcastro 6y ago
Seems like an odd example to choose, you right click and then "create a new folder" just like in Windows.

For that to happen, we'd need a company to invest into good UI/UX. As long as I have to DuckDuck to find the button for creating a new folder in Nautilus ... desktop Linux will remain a niche.

hnlmorg 6y ago

There's plenty of good UI/UX outside of GNOME. Personally I find the UI/UX in KDE to be better than Windows and macOS's desktop managers. Each to their own and all that though.

bogwog 6y ago
> There's plenty of good UI/UX outside of GNOME. True, but keep in mind that GNOME sets the bar very very low.

meibo 6y ago

Look at Chinese Android phones: They get away with slapping an unresponsive and confusing shell onto their phones and still sell millions. I wouldn't be surprised if this will happen for Laptops soon as well, with custom in-house DEs. Imagine that Chinese OEMs will be happy to get rid of Windows.

zibzab 6y ago
Not a fan of chinees phones. But have you used a mordern oppo, Huawei or xiaomi recently?
- schmorptron 6y ago
  yeah, modern miui seems surprisingly well thought-out and designed in some areas, with small details like rippling animations

lobstrosity420 6y ago

>As long as I have to DuckDuck to find the button for creating a new folder in Nautilus Lol. Hyperbole or brain damage?

redisman 6y ago

Ubuntu is pretty much there UI/UX wise for example. If Samsung provides top notch firmware then I don’t see any problems with a Linux laptop and would want one myself

anaganisk 6y ago
I dont think so, compared to Mac Os or Windows ubuntu doesn't even come close in terms of UI/UX. PopOs or Elementary feel much more polished.
- otabdeveloper4 6y ago
  > feel much more polished 'Polish' is the last thing users care about. If it wasn't true Windows and Android wouldn't be the most popular operating systems over decades and decades.
  - zibzab 6y ago
    I find gnome more consistent and polished than Windows 10. They have done some wise design choices and created a fairly minimal environment that looks decent and not the confusing chaosWindows can be. The point is, better UX does not always win.
    - anaganisk 6y ago
      Again thats your personal preference, if you give a linux desktop and a windows desktop to an avg person for a week, Im sure they would pick Windows since thats what they can easily identify their workflows with. Linux distros have a long way to go before they're mass adopted. Im from India, and a while ago when, Student laptops offered by few universities had Ubuntu as default OS. Windows installation is the first thing they did.
  - anaganisk 6y ago
    Around the windows and android days, they were the only mass used OSes. Linux has to compete with Mac UX which normal users find very good also windows UX is so imprinted into people. So by polished I meant that.

jcastro 6y ago

Seems like an odd example to choose, you right click and then "create a new folder" just like in Windows.