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> When you see the CEO of tech companies talk in private or to one another, the way that they frame their view of the world is fascinatingly opposed to the worl

> When you see the CEO of tech companies talk in private or to one another, the way that they frame their view of the world is fascinatingly opposed to the world depicted in a Corporate Memphis illustration I see a CEO who won’t squirrel away over details that are irrelevant to making money, isn't married to a company as their baby, and has in particular let go of the design process and given it to designers or design firms because that CEO doesn't actually care. And that’s perfect. I think of companies as short expeditions to the New World to get the gold, return, and everybody disbands and never talks to each other again. Imagine if Columbus instead told the Queen of Spain that he wanted frills on the sails of the Nina, and that the typography needed changing. Would be absurd. Same for companies. This view of reality has been a highly effective for me.

knolax 6y ago
Products made by people who take no pride in the product are rarely good. It's the difference between enterprise slime and the software that you actually use on your personal computer. Most software really doesn't exist in a competitive market, it's naturally monopolistic, so you can't just rely on market forces to ensure it isn't shit.
- vmception 6y ago
  And the counterpoint is that Instagram is great. A dozen people got the $1bn buyout, a few years of Facebook vesting and moved on. The general distribution of all products suck. Has nothing to do with the speculators that consider their $0 par value shares to be part of their portfolio.
lwhi 6y ago
It's the world we live in. But to say the situation is perfect, is quite simply a lie.
- vmception 6y ago
  I know plenty of people that squirrel away over irrelevant details for new businesses and can’t distinguish between relevant and irrelevant I specifically didn’t say perfect I said ‘effective’, and ‘for me’: The executive, board member, and advisor for various ventures.
  - lwhi 6y ago
    You're missing my point. The fact these CEOs are only concerned with profit, and the fact you drew a comparison between these ventures and colonialism .. is a very apt summary. You used the word 'perfect'. It's perfect in terms of achieving these aims, and as I mentioned in another comment .. the style is definitely indicative of the system it serves. However, a lot of the factors involved are very suboptimal in my mind.
    - vmception 6y ago
      You're right I see now I did use the word perfect. I was thinking about my conclusion, but yes. I can't work with a perfectionist and also controlling CEO. I can't buy shares from one either. I don't want to waste meeting time with one. Typical initial hurdles and their solution: The name of the company on the incorporation documents doesn't matter. You don't need a lawyer to incorporate. Just get the logo done on Fiverr. You don't need a team page on your website. Nobody cares. Your co-founders are not 50% or equal shareholders. Keep most of the shares. Do non-dilutive things. Stop adding non-standard things to sweeten the deal to potential investors. They either want shares or they don't.

knolax 6y ago

Products made by people who take no pride in the product are rarely good. It's the difference between enterprise slime and the software that you actually use on your personal computer. Most software really doesn't exist in a competitive market, it's naturally monopolistic, so you can't just rely on market forces to ensure it isn't shit.

vmception 6y ago
And the counterpoint is that Instagram is great. A dozen people got the $1bn buyout, a few years of Facebook vesting and moved on. The general distribution of all products suck. Has nothing to do with the speculators that consider their $0 par value shares to be part of their portfolio.

lwhi 6y ago

It's the world we live in. But to say the situation is perfect, is quite simply a lie.

vmception 6y ago
I know plenty of people that squirrel away over irrelevant details for new businesses and can’t distinguish between relevant and irrelevant I specifically didn’t say perfect I said ‘effective’, and ‘for me’: The executive, board member, and advisor for various ventures.
- lwhi 6y ago
  You're missing my point. The fact these CEOs are only concerned with profit, and the fact you drew a comparison between these ventures and colonialism .. is a very apt summary. You used the word 'perfect'. It's perfect in terms of achieving these aims, and as I mentioned in another comment .. the style is definitely indicative of the system it serves. However, a lot of the factors involved are very suboptimal in my mind.
  - vmception 6y ago
    You're right I see now I did use the word perfect. I was thinking about my conclusion, but yes. I can't work with a perfectionist and also controlling CEO. I can't buy shares from one either. I don't want to waste meeting time with one. Typical initial hurdles and their solution: The name of the company on the incorporation documents doesn't matter. You don't need a lawyer to incorporate. Just get the logo done on Fiverr. You don't need a team page on your website. Nobody cares. Your co-founders are not 50% or equal shareholders. Keep most of the shares. Do non-dilutive things. Stop adding non-standard things to sweeten the deal to potential investors. They either want shares or they don't.