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I think you can probably trace some influence even further back to webTV. Check out its flat "10-foot UI" from 1999: https://youtu.be/eHJN9cMo4P4?t=156 https://

by Lammy 6y ago

I think you can probably trace some influence even further back to webTV. Check out its flat "10-foot UI" from 1999: https://youtu.be/eHJN9cMo4P4?t=156 https://youtu.be/eHJN9cMo4P4?t=156 Microsoft's UltimateTV set-top-box hardware group got folded into the Xbox division in 2002: https://www.mrt.com/news/article/Microsoft-to-Eliminate-TV-Division-7722896.php https://www.mrt.com/news/article/Microsoft-to-Eliminate-TV-D... And then in 2006 (per Wikipedia), "Xbox 360 overseer J Allard ran the [Toshiba Gigabeat 1089] project, codenamed 'Argo', staffed with Xbox and MSN Music Store developers who worked on 'Alexandria', finalized as Zune Marketplace."

sidpatil 6y ago
> Check out its flat "10-foot UI" from 1999 That doesn't look flat whatsoever. There are plenty of three-dimensional layout elements in that UI.
- Lammy 6y ago
  Are you currently ten feet away from a fuzzy 24” consumer CRT television?
  - sidpatil 6y ago
    Not at the moment, but the design elements are similar enough to the ones I'd see on my satellite receiver OSD menus from back in the early 2000s. I could tell that those were 3D as well at the time, and my TV at the time was a fuzzy 36" CRT from the 1990s. And I'm glad for it! 3D design elements make a lot of sense on those kinds of displays, because they work well to stand out despite the relatively low resolution and color contrast.