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If only, it might give birth to better online services as alternatives to the data-vampires over in the US.

by ad404b8a372f2b9 5y ago

emteycz 5y ago
No, all technologists from EU would jump over.
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- wizzwizz4 5y ago
  No we wouldn't. We might connect the internets back together, though, if only to keep chatting with our non-EU IRC buddies.
  - emteycz 5y ago
    I don't know a single one that wouldn't not only jump over networks, but borders too. People are getting angry as it is now. Many of them are leaving because of the failure to handle covid, also PSD2, the inability to access many pages due to GDPR, the encryption ban plans, the tracked digital money plans, etc. The Ukrainians that were here for a decade or more are choosing to go back to Ukraine rather than stay in this, what an image of the EU. My 70 y/o grandmother is literally the only reason I'm still here.
    - joshuaissac 5y ago
      PSD2 has been great for EU citizens because it lets them use personal finance apps of choice instead of being locked in to their bank's own app. GDPR has been good even for non-EU citizens because it prompted some companies to provide data controls for all users, not just EU citizens. I have only come across a few American local news sites that block EU visitors. There are other reasons technologists may leave, such as higher salaries and larger capital markets in the US, but GDPR, PSD2 and Covid-19 would not be incentives for most.
      - emteycz 5y ago
        I don't feel great about any of these. I never cared about using third party apps for banking, it's useless - obviously only the most basic operations are supported; and I never wanted to use my "dumb" phone for banking at all, I wanted seamless internet payments - but now I am required to have Android/iOS phone connected to the internet on hand to even log in into online banking interface - great! News sites aren't the only victim of GDPR, it's also SaaS apps and other services, especially financial services. I used to be able to have American brokerage accounts, now that's gone - great! How about you stop talking about what's good for me? This is exactly the problem with EU, it feels like it knows perfectly what's good for all 450 million people - well it doesn't, and it's not the same for all.
    - jokethrowaway 5y ago
      This is definitely happening, but only in very limited circles. Tech especially is still drinking the kool-aid

If only, it might give birth to better online services as alternatives to the data-vampires over in the US.

emteycz 5y ago

No, all technologists from EU would jump over.

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wizzwizz4 5y ago
No we wouldn't. We might connect the internets back together, though, if only to keep chatting with our non-EU IRC buddies.
- emteycz 5y ago
  I don't know a single one that wouldn't not only jump over networks, but borders too. People are getting angry as it is now. Many of them are leaving because of the failure to handle covid, also PSD2, the inability to access many pages due to GDPR, the encryption ban plans, the tracked digital money plans, etc. The Ukrainians that were here for a decade or more are choosing to go back to Ukraine rather than stay in this, what an image of the EU. My 70 y/o grandmother is literally the only reason I'm still here.
  - joshuaissac 5y ago
    PSD2 has been great for EU citizens because it lets them use personal finance apps of choice instead of being locked in to their bank's own app. GDPR has been good even for non-EU citizens because it prompted some companies to provide data controls for all users, not just EU citizens. I have only come across a few American local news sites that block EU visitors. There are other reasons technologists may leave, such as higher salaries and larger capital markets in the US, but GDPR, PSD2 and Covid-19 would not be incentives for most.
    - emteycz 5y ago
      I don't feel great about any of these. I never cared about using third party apps for banking, it's useless - obviously only the most basic operations are supported; and I never wanted to use my "dumb" phone for banking at all, I wanted seamless internet payments - but now I am required to have Android/iOS phone connected to the internet on hand to even log in into online banking interface - great! News sites aren't the only victim of GDPR, it's also SaaS apps and other services, especially financial services. I used to be able to have American brokerage accounts, now that's gone - great! How about you stop talking about what's good for me? This is exactly the problem with EU, it feels like it knows perfectly what's good for all 450 million people - well it doesn't, and it's not the same for all.
  - jokethrowaway 5y ago
    This is definitely happening, but only in very limited circles. Tech especially is still drinking the kool-aid