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> A thoughtful person will also ask: "Wait, when did the FBI begin undertaking clearly illegal activity? What other investigations have been tainted as a result

> A thoughtful person will also ask: "Wait, when did the FBI begin undertaking clearly illegal activity? What other investigations have been tainted as a result?" I don't think this matters at all. The FBI has been rife with controversy[1] and legally dubious actions[2] since just about their founding. Despite this, it's well out of the mainstream to ask if the FBI should exist and very few question whether people convicted by the FBI are actually guilty. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FBI_controversies#Domestic_surveillance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FBI_controversies#Dome... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

MomoXenosaga 6y ago
Defund the FBI really? You can read a history book to find out why the FBI was founded and why every country has its own variation of it.
- tarsinge 6y ago
  In part to fight communism activism and protect organized crime?
  - alsetmusic 6y ago
    > In part to fight communism activism and protect organized crime? I understand why you used a question mark, but this is a true statement on its own.
- ASalazarMX 6y ago
  I've just read a Mayan history book. It says nothing about the foundation of the FBI. Do you have a specific book?
- TomSwirly 6y ago
  The cure is worse than the disease. No matter how desperate I am for heart surgery, I won't go to the surgeon who kills all his patients. The very first director of the FBI was J. Edgar Hoover, who ran the FBI as a lawless private army for literally fifty years. And there has been really no systematic reform since. Systematically corrupt law enforcement is worse than no law enforcement at all. Systemically broken organizations are unfixable, particular ones that have been broken for over a century. If the US really needs the law enforcement that the FBI is supposed to provide and mostly doesn't, they should set up a new, non-corrupt, competent organization to do it, and fire everyone in the FBI. They won't, of course. Accountability is not any sort of value in US government.

MomoXenosaga 6y ago

Defund the FBI really? You can read a history book to find out why the FBI was founded and why every country has its own variation of it.

tarsinge 6y ago
In part to fight communism activism and protect organized crime?
- alsetmusic 6y ago
  > In part to fight communism activism and protect organized crime? I understand why you used a question mark, but this is a true statement on its own.
ASalazarMX 6y ago
I've just read a Mayan history book. It says nothing about the foundation of the FBI. Do you have a specific book?
TomSwirly 6y ago
The cure is worse than the disease. No matter how desperate I am for heart surgery, I won't go to the surgeon who kills all his patients. The very first director of the FBI was J. Edgar Hoover, who ran the FBI as a lawless private army for literally fifty years. And there has been really no systematic reform since. Systematically corrupt law enforcement is worse than no law enforcement at all. Systemically broken organizations are unfixable, particular ones that have been broken for over a century. If the US really needs the law enforcement that the FBI is supposed to provide and mostly doesn't, they should set up a new, non-corrupt, competent organization to do it, and fire everyone in the FBI. They won't, of course. Accountability is not any sort of value in US government.