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If it's truly for a life-saving purpose then a little bit of paperwork shouldn't stop them from using it. And you might think it's sad, but I'm not shedding a

If it's truly for a life-saving purpose then a little bit of paperwork shouldn't stop them from using it. And you might think it's sad, but I'm not shedding a single tear for the police who don't have access to $50k missiles and air support. This too, is coming from a 2A supporter. > "If there's anyone that's time-proven competent at tactical equipment handling, it's law enforcement" This in particular is a strange claim. Most cops spend the bare minimum time at gun ranges that is required of them. If there is anyone that is well trained with any sort of grenade, I expect it to be soldiers not police officers. And on that note: > Methods: Ten years of data were extracted from Dallas Police Department records. LEOs who were involved in a shooting in the past 10 years were frequency matched on sex to LEOs never involved in a shooting. Military discharge records were examined to quantify veteran status and deployment(s). Multivariable logistic regression was used to estimate the effect of veteran status and deployment history on officer-involved shooting involvement. > Results: Records were abstracted for 516 officers. In the adjusted models, veteran LEOs who were not deployed were significantly more likely to be involved in a shooting than non-veteran officers. Veterans with a deployment history were 2.9 times more likely to be in a shooting than non-veteran officers. > Conclusions: Military veteran status, regardless of deployment history, is associated with increased odds of shootings among LEOs. Future studies should identify mechanisms that explain this relationship, and whether officers who experienced firsthand combat exposure experience greater odds of shooting involvement. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30281075/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30281075/

Bancakes 5y ago
No, that's not what I meant at all.... I don't want an officer explaining his 'fear for life' serving a simple seatbelt ticket, because we can't have $50 aliexpress drones flying to my window instead. I don't want no-knock raids to still be a thing in 2021 when you can easily scout the entire house with IR and know nobody can escape. I want police to have access to simple technology without crappy paperwork. I want most influential civilian paper work like silencer tax stamps and the NFA to be invalidated, too. It makes no sense.
- freshair 5y ago
  How is that $50 drone hovering next to my face going to breatherlizer me to see if I'm drunk? Will I have to put my face next to the rotor blades? And if the drone thinks I'm drunk, will the drone pull me out of the car before I speed off and run over some kid? Can the drone wrestle me into handcuffs? I don't think technology is the solution to these problems. Not this sort of technology anyway. At the end of the day police will still have to physically interact with suspected criminals. And in America, where common people often own guns, that means risking their lives. But just how risky is it actually? I think we need more training to put these risks into perspective. The odds of any particular cop ever getting shot are quite low, but cops who consume cop media on cop websites and hang out on cop facebook groups or other cop echo chambers created by social media algorithms will naturally be exposed to more headlines about cops getting hurt. I believe these fear-mongering echo chambers induce an unjustified level of fear in the police officers who participate in them. Giving the police more high tech toys won't assuage these irrational fears; if anything I think it will might validate those fears. If you're a well-meaning cop who spends half your weekend watching videos of police in shootouts with criminals, then on monday your boss gives you a bunch of high tech body armor and drones, wouldn't that validate your perception of having an exceptionally dangerous job? > I want most influential civilian paper work like silencer tax stamps and the NFA to be invalidated, too. Here we agree, particularly with respect to silencers, which are safety devices. But for as long as those laws exist for the common people, I oppose police having exemptions to them.

Bancakes 5y ago

No, that's not what I meant at all.... I don't want an officer explaining his 'fear for life' serving a simple seatbelt ticket, because we can't have $50 aliexpress drones flying to my window instead. I don't want no-knock raids to still be a thing in 2021 when you can easily scout the entire house with IR and know nobody can escape. I want police to have access to simple technology without crappy paperwork. I want most influential civilian paper work like silencer tax stamps and the NFA to be invalidated, too. It makes no sense.

freshair 5y ago
How is that $50 drone hovering next to my face going to breatherlizer me to see if I'm drunk? Will I have to put my face next to the rotor blades? And if the drone thinks I'm drunk, will the drone pull me out of the car before I speed off and run over some kid? Can the drone wrestle me into handcuffs? I don't think technology is the solution to these problems. Not this sort of technology anyway. At the end of the day police will still have to physically interact with suspected criminals. And in America, where common people often own guns, that means risking their lives. But just how risky is it actually? I think we need more training to put these risks into perspective. The odds of any particular cop ever getting shot are quite low, but cops who consume cop media on cop websites and hang out on cop facebook groups or other cop echo chambers created by social media algorithms will naturally be exposed to more headlines about cops getting hurt. I believe these fear-mongering echo chambers induce an unjustified level of fear in the police officers who participate in them. Giving the police more high tech toys won't assuage these irrational fears; if anything I think it will might validate those fears. If you're a well-meaning cop who spends half your weekend watching videos of police in shootouts with criminals, then on monday your boss gives you a bunch of high tech body armor and drones, wouldn't that validate your perception of having an exceptionally dangerous job? > I want most influential civilian paper work like silencer tax stamps and the NFA to be invalidated, too. Here we agree, particularly with respect to silencers, which are safety devices. But for as long as those laws exist for the common people, I oppose police having exemptions to them.