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Not really, they just want you to realize what a scam it is and that cops/feds are stealing from people for no reason other than personal and departmental gains

Not really, they just want you to realize what a scam it is and that cops/feds are stealing from people for no reason other than personal and departmental gains to flex their power. It's rather common in certain states. Along with basically illegal search by K9 cops on false triggers of vehicles. This happened to me in Texas. I refused them searching my car (had a brake light out), the cop got in a huff, said I had to wait until they brought a k9 out (thought he "smelled marijuana"). Full disclosure, I've never smoked pot or done any narcotic of any kind but I did have a pot brownie in college once. They search my car, the dog "triggered on something" and found absolutely zero as I knew they would (although I was a bit afraid it would be dirty cops who'd drop a dime bag somewhere). It was a complete waste of time and I'm pretty sure the cop set it all up because he was bored and I didn't submit to a voluntary search. This turned me a pretty big supporter of the cops into someone who realize they really need to be reigned in from their current fascist/military mentality.

zeusk 6y ago
ikr! I wasn’t born here and when I tell my friends US police forces are better equipped than my home country’s military they just give me a stare as if it’s normal and blame it on the 2nd amendment that most cops have to carry body armor and deadly force weapons. Sounds so backwards to me, something I’d expect in Somalia and not Redmond, Washington.
- giantg2 6y ago
  I don't see the problem being with them having those tools. I see the problem being how the system doesnt provide correct/adequate training and turns a blind eye when those tools are misused. There needs to be accountability.
  - zeusk 6y ago
    I quite strongly believe in the saying "When all one has a hammer, everything looks like a nail". I definitely see this in Tech, so it likely happens in policing as well - where they're given ever so forceful tools, they'll find reasons to justify that cost.
    - giantg2 6y ago
      They aren't only given "hammers". They have an array of tools at their disposal. There are some cops who don't have the training or the capacity (standards are pretty low) to effectively use the correct tool, like that cop that thought she was using a taser. But countless others are able to correctly choose and use the right tool for the job.
adolph 6y ago
At first I think, "this approach is playing roulette with a revolver," but on second thought if the cop was dirty they'd "find" something regardless of path. If you have the time the civic exercise of constitutional prerogatives is undoubtably as worthwhile and interesting as jury duty or voting. The below linked incident exposed a broad conspiracy to arrest and jail people with a primary purpose of padding overtime timesheets. The city and former chief continue the coverup to this day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecan_Park_raid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecan_Park_raid
Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
> said I had to wait until they brought a k9 out (thought he "smelled marijuana") You know what really blows my mind? Is that in some states, possession of merely a dimebag of weed can get you a prison sentence and that "smelling marijuana" is used as a justification for bringing out the drug dog. Meanwhile, in Oregon, I literally have an ad for a weed shop on the back of my grocery store receipt. Proof: https://imgur.com/gallery/b1sicuL https://imgur.com/gallery/b1sicuL

zeusk 6y ago

ikr! I wasn’t born here and when I tell my friends US police forces are better equipped than my home country’s military they just give me a stare as if it’s normal and blame it on the 2nd amendment that most cops have to carry body armor and deadly force weapons. Sounds so backwards to me, something I’d expect in Somalia and not Redmond, Washington.

giantg2 6y ago
I don't see the problem being with them having those tools. I see the problem being how the system doesnt provide correct/adequate training and turns a blind eye when those tools are misused. There needs to be accountability.
- zeusk 6y ago
  I quite strongly believe in the saying "When all one has a hammer, everything looks like a nail". I definitely see this in Tech, so it likely happens in policing as well - where they're given ever so forceful tools, they'll find reasons to justify that cost.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    They aren't only given "hammers". They have an array of tools at their disposal. There are some cops who don't have the training or the capacity (standards are pretty low) to effectively use the correct tool, like that cop that thought she was using a taser. But countless others are able to correctly choose and use the right tool for the job.

adolph 6y ago

At first I think, "this approach is playing roulette with a revolver," but on second thought if the cop was dirty they'd "find" something regardless of path. If you have the time the civic exercise of constitutional prerogatives is undoubtably as worthwhile and interesting as jury duty or voting. The below linked incident exposed a broad conspiracy to arrest and jail people with a primary purpose of padding overtime timesheets. The city and former chief continue the coverup to this day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecan_Park_raid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecan_Park_raid

Sohcahtoa82 6y ago

> said I had to wait until they brought a k9 out (thought he "smelled marijuana") You know what really blows my mind? Is that in some states, possession of merely a dimebag of weed can get you a prison sentence and that "smelling marijuana" is used as a justification for bringing out the drug dog. Meanwhile, in Oregon, I literally have an ad for a weed shop on the back of my grocery store receipt. Proof: https://imgur.com/gallery/b1sicuL https://imgur.com/gallery/b1sicuL