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I disagree. Maybe my grandparents weren't traveling to Croatia for Yacht Week but they traveled and lived all over the US, joined social clubs, my grandfather h

I disagree. Maybe my grandparents weren't traveling to Croatia for Yacht Week but they traveled and lived all over the US, joined social clubs, my grandfather hunted and competed in sports, played piano. They weren't living under thatched roofs with scurvy or anything. And you can google any inflation calculator you want, $1000 in 1950 would be about $10k now, so I'd say it's doubled a few times.

missedthecue 5y ago
He is saying it doubled after women joined the workforce. Not that it has doubled over the past half century. And your father was well off compared to what is described in the Parent's comment. Some good evidence of my point is that the average house in 1950 was about 1000 sq ft and had one bathroom. Today, the average American home is about 2800 sq ft with multiple full bathrooms. Another example is that in 1950, very few American families owned more than one automotible. Today it is normal to own 2, 3, or 4. Food is much cheaper as a percentage of income, travel has gotten dramatically cheaper, and of course cheap technology and entertainment is coming out of our ears. Not to mention modern medicine and creature comforts such as year round air conditioning in the home and auto. People who think there has been a decline in the average Americans living standard since 1950 are either misinformed or trying to push a sketchy political agenda.
- watwut 5y ago
  > He is saying it doubled after women joined the workforce. Not that it has doubled over the past half century. But it did not doubled, because such proposition assumes zero female labor participation in 1950 and that was not actually the case. Also, the healthcare costs and education costs went up significantly. Yes, there is more space, because space is cheap in suburbs. In a lot of ways, the gains are something I would happily gladly trade for cheap healthcare or college. Plus again, if you live in suburbs which were build and poplar only after 1950, the two cars are necessity. Because otherwise one partner is stuck at home without even being able to go shopping or take kids to school. In places with good public transport, the second or even first car is luxury. In suburb, you are way more pressured to have it.
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missedthecue 5y ago

He is saying it doubled after women joined the workforce. Not that it has doubled over the past half century. And your father was well off compared to what is described in the Parent's comment. Some good evidence of my point is that the average house in 1950 was about 1000 sq ft and had one bathroom. Today, the average American home is about 2800 sq ft with multiple full bathrooms. Another example is that in 1950, very few American families owned more than one automotible. Today it is normal to own 2, 3, or 4. Food is much cheaper as a percentage of income, travel has gotten dramatically cheaper, and of course cheap technology and entertainment is coming out of our ears. Not to mention modern medicine and creature comforts such as year round air conditioning in the home and auto. People who think there has been a decline in the average Americans living standard since 1950 are either misinformed or trying to push a sketchy political agenda.

watwut 5y ago
> He is saying it doubled after women joined the workforce. Not that it has doubled over the past half century. But it did not doubled, because such proposition assumes zero female labor participation in 1950 and that was not actually the case. Also, the healthcare costs and education costs went up significantly. Yes, there is more space, because space is cheap in suburbs. In a lot of ways, the gains are something I would happily gladly trade for cheap healthcare or college. Plus again, if you live in suburbs which were build and poplar only after 1950, the two cars are necessity. Because otherwise one partner is stuck at home without even being able to go shopping or take kids to school. In places with good public transport, the second or even first car is luxury. In suburb, you are way more pressured to have it.

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