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I note that all your statistics are based on figures that only involve the number of people that successfully obtained healthcare which seems like it's ignoring

I note that all your statistics are based on figures that only involve the number of people that successfully obtained healthcare which seems like it's ignoring the possibility that a significant percentage don't have access to those wait lists at all. If you only let half of your population on the list in the first place, I don't think it's overly shocking that metrics across the board would appear better. I'd be interested to know the percentage of people in each country that require hip replacements, MIR's or Heart Stents but have no effective chance at even seeking out the preliminary care that would lead to them.

syshum 5y ago
Ok show me the stat that 50% of people that desire healthcare do not have access to it? Even the most aggressive numbers on uninsured in the use put it about 15% to 20% of the population, no where near the 50% you are claiming in your comment There was a time in my 20's where I did not have insurance, I still had (and got) care when I needed it. Sure it was expensive but I was never denied services. Yes you can find stories of people that do not have access to care, and we should do what we can to eliminate those edge cases where there are clearly gaps in the system but paint these edge cases as the rule is just disingenuous at best
- InvertedRhodium 5y ago
  > Ok show me the stat that 50% of people that desire healthcare do not have access to it? That was an example, simplified so as to make the impact more obvious. Take any country on the planet, and look at their healthcare figures - now exclude the poorest 50% of people from accessing the medical system in those countries. Bet the numbers look better now. > There was a time in my 20's where I did not have insurance, I still had (and got) care when I needed it. Sure it was expensive but I was never denied services. I'm not sure how relevant personal anecdotes are when you're talking about the healthcare of an entire population. But hey - good work mate.

syshum 5y ago

Ok show me the stat that 50% of people that desire healthcare do not have access to it? Even the most aggressive numbers on uninsured in the use put it about 15% to 20% of the population, no where near the 50% you are claiming in your comment There was a time in my 20's where I did not have insurance, I still had (and got) care when I needed it. Sure it was expensive but I was never denied services. Yes you can find stories of people that do not have access to care, and we should do what we can to eliminate those edge cases where there are clearly gaps in the system but paint these edge cases as the rule is just disingenuous at best

InvertedRhodium 5y ago
> Ok show me the stat that 50% of people that desire healthcare do not have access to it? That was an example, simplified so as to make the impact more obvious. Take any country on the planet, and look at their healthcare figures - now exclude the poorest 50% of people from accessing the medical system in those countries. Bet the numbers look better now. > There was a time in my 20's where I did not have insurance, I still had (and got) care when I needed it. Sure it was expensive but I was never denied services. I'm not sure how relevant personal anecdotes are when you're talking about the healthcare of an entire population. But hey - good work mate.