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>Yeah, the size of these trucks has completely put me off ever wanting one. I miss the small ones from a few decades ago. <rolls eyes> You (statistical you as

>Yeah, the size of these trucks has completely put me off ever wanting one. I miss the small ones from a few decades ago. <rolls eyes> You (statistical you as a HN user, not you personally) say this with one breath but one look at the B pillar of an 80s minivan and you'd start coming up with excuses for why it's not safe enough for your kid. The same demographics that complain about cars growing do a hell of a lot more complaining about safety and efficiency. So the OEM adds space for crumple zones, thick strong doors, a bulbous front end that pedestrians can gently (lol) bounce off of. And the OEM makes smooth sculpted curves so the vehicle can punch the cleanest possible hole in the air. And then they realize there's no room for people, so they scale it up to make more space so we get a Civic that's bigger than a 90s Accord. You can't have it all HN, so which is it?

qubidt 6y ago
Modern trucks are still huge relative to other vehicles on the road. I want smaller trucks.
- frogpelt 6y ago
  Small trucks are available. A base model, 2wd, 2-door Tacoma is not big.
  - psadauskas 6y ago
    They don't make a 2-door Tacoma any more (for the US market). The smallest now is an "access cab". I bought a 2-door Tacoma 5 years ago, and the dealer struggled to find one for me. It shipped from over 1000 miles away, meanwhile they had 20+ 4-door Tacomas on the lot.
  - aidenn0 6y ago
    It may be poor memory, or maybe different styling, but a 2020 Tacoma feels a lot bigger than a late 80s Toyota Pick Up or Ford Ranger. Looking it up, the longest fourth-generation Hilux was 195.5 inches long, and the shortest Tacoma is 212 inches. Similarly its ~60 inches vs ~70 inches of height. For the single cab, long-bed it's 10 inches higher and 16 inches longer and the Hilux was available with a single-cab short bed that was even 12 inches shorter.
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    It's comparable to the Dodge Dakota. And the Dakota was supposed to be larger than the compact trucks.
look_lookatme 6y ago
Not to mention that a full sized F150 is less than an inch wider than one from 25 years ago. What people see when they see truck size is vertical size and hood lines which is what has changed the most. Trucks look much bigger now, which is partly aesthetics and partly for safety, but I think people have internalized a belief that they have grown outward too, which is not the case.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  The small trucks that the HN demographics tend to err toward have grown substantially.

qubidt 6y ago

Modern trucks are still huge relative to other vehicles on the road. I want smaller trucks.

frogpelt 6y ago
Small trucks are available. A base model, 2wd, 2-door Tacoma is not big.
- psadauskas 6y ago
  They don't make a 2-door Tacoma any more (for the US market). The smallest now is an "access cab". I bought a 2-door Tacoma 5 years ago, and the dealer struggled to find one for me. It shipped from over 1000 miles away, meanwhile they had 20+ 4-door Tacomas on the lot.
- aidenn0 6y ago
  It may be poor memory, or maybe different styling, but a 2020 Tacoma feels a lot bigger than a late 80s Toyota Pick Up or Ford Ranger. Looking it up, the longest fourth-generation Hilux was 195.5 inches long, and the shortest Tacoma is 212 inches. Similarly its ~60 inches vs ~70 inches of height. For the single cab, long-bed it's 10 inches higher and 16 inches longer and the Hilux was available with a single-cab short bed that was even 12 inches shorter.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  It's comparable to the Dodge Dakota. And the Dakota was supposed to be larger than the compact trucks.

look_lookatme 6y ago

Not to mention that a full sized F150 is less than an inch wider than one from 25 years ago. What people see when they see truck size is vertical size and hood lines which is what has changed the most. Trucks look much bigger now, which is partly aesthetics and partly for safety, but I think people have internalized a belief that they have grown outward too, which is not the case.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
The small trucks that the HN demographics tend to err toward have grown substantially.