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I'm skeptical of some of these investments though. I think once they're legal for recreational use (I kind of believe that's what most really want, medical uses

I'm skeptical of some of these investments though. I think once they're legal for recreational use (I kind of believe that's what most really want, medical uses are a way to normalize use and get there) interest will drop off quick and people will just self medicate or whatever or they won't be these mystical taboo things. Agreed. Because, MDMA has a heck of a comedown. Not that I’d ever do an illegal drug, because that is just a moral wrong in a deontological sense, and I am a perfect citizen. But, if I had danced with these devil drugs, yikes, Molly is not an every day drug. Marijuana as an investment? Sure. That’s a plausible every-day-use drug. A beer with dinner, or a vape before bed. Consistent demand. Ecstasy? No way. That next day or two where your brain is scraping along with diminished neurotransmitters can be just brutal. And though I have less experience with psilocybin, the nausea alone would seem to limit the frequent recreational use. Again, all theoretical, drugs are bad, didn’t you people see Cartoon All-Stars To The Rescue?

woleium 5y ago
But when it's legal we can research what to take with or before to minimise the negative effects. Just because there is no cure for the alcohol hangover doesn't mean the same for MDMA, forexample there is some evidence that dosing with 5-htp for 4-5 days prior ameliorates the negative effects somewhat, but, as ever, more research is needed.
pmoriarty 5y ago
"Molly is not an every day drug" Ann Shulgin, wife of Alexander (Sasha) Shulgin, discoverer of MDMA, had this[1] to say about frequent MDMA use: "When you use MDMA more often, I would say, more than 4 times a year you begin to notice that the experience is beginning to drop down. ... It's losing its magic. College kids who were using it about once a month or even more often found out within a year that they couldn't get that magic back. Some people have decided to go off MDMA completely for a year or more and see if the old magical experience returns. For some people it does. For me, I used MDMA once a week for an entire year, and did my writing of PIKHAL on that. That was my writing material. At that time we didn't realize this about the overuse of MDMA. I still cannot get anything out of taking MDMA. I've kind of burned that one out. So I always warn people, first of all, make sure you have MDMA not something else, and take it no more often than four times a year maximum." Incidentally, what passes of "molly" on the street is often not MDMA... sometimes this leads to fatalities.[2] Test your drugs, people! [1] - at about 4'24" in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86aU2uMMiio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86aU2uMMiio [2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKYogJ8Yxs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKYogJ8Yxs

woleium 5y ago

But when it's legal we can research what to take with or before to minimise the negative effects. Just because there is no cure for the alcohol hangover doesn't mean the same for MDMA, forexample there is some evidence that dosing with 5-htp for 4-5 days prior ameliorates the negative effects somewhat, but, as ever, more research is needed.

pmoriarty 5y ago

"Molly is not an every day drug" Ann Shulgin, wife of Alexander (Sasha) Shulgin, discoverer of MDMA, had this[1] to say about frequent MDMA use: "When you use MDMA more often, I would say, more than 4 times a year you begin to notice that the experience is beginning to drop down. ... It's losing its magic. College kids who were using it about once a month or even more often found out within a year that they couldn't get that magic back. Some people have decided to go off MDMA completely for a year or more and see if the old magical experience returns. For some people it does. For me, I used MDMA once a week for an entire year, and did my writing of PIKHAL on that. That was my writing material. At that time we didn't realize this about the overuse of MDMA. I still cannot get anything out of taking MDMA. I've kind of burned that one out. So I always warn people, first of all, make sure you have MDMA not something else, and take it no more often than four times a year maximum." Incidentally, what passes of "molly" on the street is often not MDMA... sometimes this leads to fatalities.[2] Test your drugs, people! [1] - at about 4'24" in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86aU2uMMiio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86aU2uMMiio [2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKYogJ8Yxs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKYogJ8Yxs