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Now that the Panfrost driver is good enough for most desktop OpenGL, running it on a "underpowered" ARM SBC with NsCDE, may give thrilling feeling of an old SGI

Now that the Panfrost driver is good enough for most desktop OpenGL, running it on a "underpowered" ARM SBC with NsCDE, may give thrilling feeling of an old SGI Indy running Certain Impact.

geocrasher 6y ago
I'm very sorry to say this but your regular use of quotes to emphasize words makes the document very difficult for me to read. Quotes have many uses, but emphasis is not one of them.
- marcodiego 6y ago
  Don't feel sorry for that. I'm not a native english speaker, so this is completely unintentional. Actually, any hint of how I could better express myself is welcome. Oh... You mean quotes as in '"', right? In that case put it between quotes to note that it my be underpowered by today standards but have respectable specs compared to SGI workstations of the day. I have no benchmark to base my argument, but I do have a gut feeling.
  - dcminter 6y ago
    I think they mean in the original document where a lot of words and phrases are unnecessarily within quotation marks. I'd suggest removing pretty much all of the quotation marks to improve readability. Edit: In the post in the thread here, the quotes around the word underpowered are being used as scare quotes [1] but the more you do that the less readable a document becomes because you're putting the cognitive load of inferring the intention of the punctuation onto the reader! I would recommend using quotes for quotations/speech only. Edit2: PS Grammatical quibbles aside this is a good post, thanks for writing & submitting it! [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes
    - marcodiego 6y ago
      I think there's some misunderstanding here. I'm not LAC author. Just had a minor contribution a long time ago to make it easier to compile.
      - dcminter 6y ago
        Ah, I see. As you posted the link and as your post had a similar quirk to the original I assumed you were the author of that too. You can probably disregard my advice in that case.
        geocrasher 6y ago
        Same, I thought you were the author of the linked website for the same reason.
  - geocrasher 6y ago
    I sincerely appreciate your humility! The other commented on the cognitive load of constantly changing contexts, and that was accurate. To provide a direct response, in all of the following cases, quotes should not have been used. There are likely more but these are the few I picked: - can be run without a “gaming-class” video card. - the three lower “graphic detail” levels - -on ten year-old Intel “Core II Duo” or - comprehensive “YouTube” playlists, - well-known “AskMisterWizard.com” web site - Microsoft "Windows" - YouTube "PlayList" This one is acceptable, because you're essentially defining LAC as an acronym for the first time, and a change of context is acceptable: LINUX Air Combat (or “LAC”) That's not to say it's' needed. I'd have written it: LINUX Air Combat (LAC) or LINUX Air Combat (henceforth referred to as “LAC”) In another section, you wrote the following: Overall, LAC’s features compare favorably with Windows-based flight sims from the genre’s “classic” period, like “Combat Flight Simulator 2”, or “Air Warrior III”, or “Aces High I”, or “Warbirds”. It could have been written this way: Overall, LAC’s features compare favorably with Windows based flight sims from the genre’s classic period, rivalling such titles as Combat Flight Simulator 2, Air Warrior III, Aces High I, and Warbirds. Although I do not claim grammatical perfection, It think the rewritten example is more readable. But, I've seen many native English speakers/writers who'd have done it this way: Overall, LAC’s features compare favorably with Windows based flight sims from the genre’s classic period, rivalling such titles as "Combat Flight Simulator 2", "Air Warrior III", "Aces High I", and "Warbirds". Again, I do not claim perfection. I only care about grammar as far as it affects readability, and I'm known to take Creative License with it when I feel like it. (See what I did there?)
- WillPostForFood 6y ago
  Quotes have many uses, but emphasis is not one of them. Yes, but like so often with English grammar, there are exceptions. E.g., scare quotes. https://style.mla.org/quotes-when-nothing-is-being-quoted/ https://style.mla.org/quotes-when-nothing-is-being-quoted/
  - geocrasher 6y ago
    True, but since the author was not using them in that context, it's irrelevant in this case. :)
    - sundvor 6y ago
      Completely tangential, however I can't see (air) quotes anymore without think of this NZ Viva La Dirt League comedy skit. It's somewhat "mature" in content, however absolutely brilliantly funny. https://youtu.be/4DqoQq1zME8 https://youtu.be/4DqoQq1zME8
- dapids 6y ago
  Talk about being pedantic ...
swiley 6y ago
I want to try this on the pinephone. I'll report back... EDIT: nevermind, I can't find the source. The site is full of links to binaries and videos but not any repos or source archives. I found something that looked like combined source and binaries but source forge wouldn't let me download it because "downloads aren't possible on this device" (how the hell do you fuck up file downloads like this? The default appache config would be an improvement! )

Now that the Panfrost driver is good enough for most desktop OpenGL, running it on a "underpowered" ARM SBC with NsCDE, may give thrilling feeling of an old SGI Indy running Certain Impact.

geocrasher 6y ago

I'm very sorry to say this but your regular use of quotes to emphasize words makes the document very difficult for me to read. Quotes have many uses, but emphasis is not one of them.

marcodiego 6y ago
Don't feel sorry for that. I'm not a native english speaker, so this is completely unintentional. Actually, any hint of how I could better express myself is welcome. Oh... You mean quotes as in '"', right? In that case put it between quotes to note that it my be underpowered by today standards but have respectable specs compared to SGI workstations of the day. I have no benchmark to base my argument, but I do have a gut feeling.
- dcminter 6y ago
  I think they mean in the original document where a lot of words and phrases are unnecessarily within quotation marks. I'd suggest removing pretty much all of the quotation marks to improve readability. Edit: In the post in the thread here, the quotes around the word underpowered are being used as scare quotes [1] but the more you do that the less readable a document becomes because you're putting the cognitive load of inferring the intention of the punctuation onto the reader! I would recommend using quotes for quotations/speech only. Edit2: PS Grammatical quibbles aside this is a good post, thanks for writing & submitting it! [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes
  - marcodiego 6y ago
    I think there's some misunderstanding here. I'm not LAC author. Just had a minor contribution a long time ago to make it easier to compile.
    - dcminter 6y ago
      Ah, I see. As you posted the link and as your post had a similar quirk to the original I assumed you were the author of that too. You can probably disregard my advice in that case.
      - geocrasher 6y ago
        Same, I thought you were the author of the linked website for the same reason.
- geocrasher 6y ago
  I sincerely appreciate your humility! The other commented on the cognitive load of constantly changing contexts, and that was accurate. To provide a direct response, in all of the following cases, quotes should not have been used. There are likely more but these are the few I picked: - can be run without a “gaming-class” video card. - the three lower “graphic detail” levels - -on ten year-old Intel “Core II Duo” or - comprehensive “YouTube” playlists, - well-known “AskMisterWizard.com” web site - Microsoft "Windows" - YouTube "PlayList" This one is acceptable, because you're essentially defining LAC as an acronym for the first time, and a change of context is acceptable: LINUX Air Combat (or “LAC”) That's not to say it's' needed. I'd have written it: LINUX Air Combat (LAC) or LINUX Air Combat (henceforth referred to as “LAC”) In another section, you wrote the following: Overall, LAC’s features compare favorably with Windows-based flight sims from the genre’s “classic” period, like “Combat Flight Simulator 2”, or “Air Warrior III”, or “Aces High I”, or “Warbirds”. It could have been written this way: Overall, LAC’s features compare favorably with Windows based flight sims from the genre’s classic period, rivalling such titles as Combat Flight Simulator 2, Air Warrior III, Aces High I, and Warbirds. Although I do not claim grammatical perfection, It think the rewritten example is more readable. But, I've seen many native English speakers/writers who'd have done it this way: Overall, LAC’s features compare favorably with Windows based flight sims from the genre’s classic period, rivalling such titles as "Combat Flight Simulator 2", "Air Warrior III", "Aces High I", and "Warbirds". Again, I do not claim perfection. I only care about grammar as far as it affects readability, and I'm known to take Creative License with it when I feel like it. (See what I did there?)
WillPostForFood 6y ago
Quotes have many uses, but emphasis is not one of them. Yes, but like so often with English grammar, there are exceptions. E.g., scare quotes. https://style.mla.org/quotes-when-nothing-is-being-quoted/ https://style.mla.org/quotes-when-nothing-is-being-quoted/
- geocrasher 6y ago
  True, but since the author was not using them in that context, it's irrelevant in this case. :)
  - sundvor 6y ago
    Completely tangential, however I can't see (air) quotes anymore without think of this NZ Viva La Dirt League comedy skit. It's somewhat "mature" in content, however absolutely brilliantly funny. https://youtu.be/4DqoQq1zME8 https://youtu.be/4DqoQq1zME8
dapids 6y ago
Talk about being pedantic ...

swiley 6y ago

I want to try this on the pinephone. I'll report back... EDIT: nevermind, I can't find the source. The site is full of links to binaries and videos but not any repos or source archives. I found something that looked like combined source and binaries but source forge wouldn't let me download it because "downloads aren't possible on this device" (how the hell do you fuck up file downloads like this? The default appache config would be an improvement! )