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Has it? Wikipedia is primarily edited by an insulated, slowly dying clique of mostly ignorant people who would rather nothing be written at all than a domain ex
by stefan_ 6y ago
Has it? Wikipedia is primarily edited by an insulated, slowly dying clique of mostly ignorant people who would rather nothing be written at all than a domain expert outsider article.
Meanwhile, the foundation is some sort of self-perpetuating money vacuum expanding at a great rate while expenditures for actually running Wikipedia is stagnant, if anything getting cheaper. It turns out a wishy-washy NGO save the world mission is a lot more exciting than the daily struggle of community building, and with the foundation all these do-gooders don't even have to forgo the competitive salary.
Obviously a bit exaggerated, but there is a lot of truth here.
- caturopath 6y agoCan you tell me a couple large, human-made things you do like?
- coliveira 6y agoI could be much worse, corporations could have taken over.
- pilingual 6y agoWikipedia is absolutely in need of disrupting. If that happens, it should be done very thoughtfully. https://www.wired.com/2007/08/wiki-tracker/ https://www.wired.com/2007/08/wiki-tracker/ https://web.archive.org/web/20190410141316/old.ycombinator.com/ideas.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190410141316/old.ycombinator.c... (Item #23)
- respondo2134 6y ago"Wikipedia is in desperate need of thoughtful disruption" Thanks for that.
- mekoka 6y agoCitations desperately needed. What do you hope to communicate with this tirade ? You're basically saying I spewed out a bunch of things, some of it is true. Figure out which.
- stefan_ 6y agoFound the Wikipedia admin. These are well known issues: "Wikipedia is losing editors": https://mashable.com/2013/01/08/wikipedia-losing-editors/?europe=true https://mashable.com/2013/01/08/wikipedia-losing-editors/?eu... "Nearly all of Wikipedia is written by just 1 percent of its editors": https://www.vice.com/en/article/7x47bb/wikipedia-editors-elite-diversity-foundation https://www.vice.com/en/article/7x47bb/wikipedia-editors-eli... "Wikipedia’s diversity gap echoes around the internet": https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/04/04/wikipedias-diversity-gap-echoes-around-the-internet-heres-what-local-groups-are-doing-to-help.html https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/04/04/wikipedias-diver... "Wikipedia has cancer": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_Cancer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C...
- Kim_Bruning 6y agohttp://meatballwiki.org/wiki/WikiLifeCycle http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/WikiLifeCycle Wikipedia seems to somehow be hanging by its fingernails for the last decade or so, despite being somewhere in the 20's on that list. I guess something was done right. Next time even better?
- kradroy 6y agoI'm not sure why this is getting downvoted, because even Wikipedia acknowledges the issues with its contributor community. Years ago I had a friend who worked for Wikimedia Foundation and was very enthusiastic about it. That optimism didn't last for long. He left after a few years citing WF's messaging style of "holding the content hostage" during fundraising drives and the established, exclusive contributor community that, more often than not, would drive away new contributors with snippy responses and arcane editing rules.
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- paulpauper 6y ago"wiki cannot be trusted" "have anything better? how specifically is is it bad or biased compared to alternatives?" silence