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They worded the teacher decapitation by an islamist in France as "French Police Shoot and Kill Man After a Fatal Knife Attack on the Street". They chose their s

They worded the teacher decapitation by an islamist in France as "French Police Shoot and Kill Man After a Fatal Knife Attack on the Street". They chose their side (hating on my country), I chose mine, which involve not reading nor trusting what they write.

elliekelly 5y ago
You can flip through the evolution of the NYT article[1] and see that when the story was first published there were hardly any details available. Even the earliest archived version of the story was from 5:30pm and it had already been updated once. Since most headlines are written by an editor (and not the reporter) it’s exceedingly unlikely this was a malicious attempt to downplay what had happened and instead was a matter of a delay between the reporting on the ground and an editor getting a chance to review and change the headline in light of the new reporting. I can’t find the original story that was filed but I would be willing to bet the reporting on the decapitation wasn’t yet solidly confirmed when the original headline was written. Most people would consider that a good thing - showing restraint and avoiding the temptation to sensationalize headlines before having all of the facts. [1]http://web.archive.org/web/20201016193107/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/world/europe/france-decapitate-beheading.html http://web.archive.org/web/20201016193107/https://www.nytime...
FabHK 5y ago
The article is now titled "Man Beheads Teacher on the Street in France and Is Killed by Police" [1], but there is at least one link to it using the title you give [2], and the Jerusalem Post supports the idea that it was changed later. I wouldn't call it "hating on [your] country", but it is not the appropriate framing (and it was changed, to be fair). [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/world/europe/france-decapitate-beheading.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/world/europe/france-decap... [2] https://www.15minutenews.com/article/190276644/french-police-shoot-and-kill-man-after-a-fatal-knife-attack-on-the-street/ https://www.15minutenews.com/article/190276644/french-police... [3] https://www.jpost.com/international/french-teachers-murder-brings-media-terminology-into-spotlight-analysis-646095 https://www.jpost.com/international/french-teachers-murder-b...
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  I think this is all too common. NYTimes has lost its moral compass just like every other news source. Absolutely inexcusable and completely intentional. Publishing headlines is not something you do on a whim, it’s after careful thought and consideration.

elliekelly 5y ago

You can flip through the evolution of the NYT article[1] and see that when the story was first published there were hardly any details available. Even the earliest archived version of the story was from 5:30pm and it had already been updated once. Since most headlines are written by an editor (and not the reporter) it’s exceedingly unlikely this was a malicious attempt to downplay what had happened and instead was a matter of a delay between the reporting on the ground and an editor getting a chance to review and change the headline in light of the new reporting. I can’t find the original story that was filed but I would be willing to bet the reporting on the decapitation wasn’t yet solidly confirmed when the original headline was written. Most people would consider that a good thing - showing restraint and avoiding the temptation to sensationalize headlines before having all of the facts. [1]http://web.archive.org/web/20201016193107/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/world/europe/france-decapitate-beheading.html http://web.archive.org/web/20201016193107/https://www.nytime...

FabHK 5y ago

The article is now titled "Man Beheads Teacher on the Street in France and Is Killed by Police" [1], but there is at least one link to it using the title you give [2], and the Jerusalem Post supports the idea that it was changed later. I wouldn't call it "hating on [your] country", but it is not the appropriate framing (and it was changed, to be fair). [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/world/europe/france-decapitate-beheading.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/world/europe/france-decap... [2] https://www.15minutenews.com/article/190276644/french-police-shoot-and-kill-man-after-a-fatal-knife-attack-on-the-street/ https://www.15minutenews.com/article/190276644/french-police... [3] https://www.jpost.com/international/french-teachers-murder-brings-media-terminology-into-spotlight-analysis-646095 https://www.jpost.com/international/french-teachers-murder-b...

systemvoltage 5y ago
I think this is all too common. NYTimes has lost its moral compass just like every other news source. Absolutely inexcusable and completely intentional. Publishing headlines is not something you do on a whim, it’s after careful thought and consideration.