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I almost tend to think these are intentional to tell the in-crowd apart, like a shibboleth. Including pronouncing SQL as sequel and so on.
by bonoboTP 6y ago
I almost tend to think these are intentional to tell the in-crowd apart, like a shibboleth. Including pronouncing SQL as sequel and so on.
- sokoloff 6y agoI wonder what the split is between “O-S-Ten” and “O-S-X”. I suspect -X is more common.
- 7thaccount 6y agoSQL is commonly pronounced as "sequel" or "S-Q-L". Is one really more correct at this point?
- Asraelite 6y agoObviously the only correct pronunciation is "squirrel"
- SAI_Peregrinus 6y agoAnd the only correct spelling of "squirrel" is sqwrl.
- bonoboTP 6y agoS-Q-L is a lame normie version, if you are really a leet haxor you know about the obscure information that it's sequel. I hate that I always have to look these things up to not look out of place. For example nginx is engine-ex not en-jinks. They often seem intentionally hard or ambiguous to pronounce.
- sltkr 6y agoIt's kind of ironic because I only learned the "correct" pronunciation when I got a boring office job at an American tech company. When I used the n00b pronunciation I was in college, and way more of a 1337 h4x0r. So as a shibboleth it mostly functions to distinguish those who discuss tech in English with their colleagues from those who do not. The latter group is quite diverse; it includes self-taught people, people communicating mostly in writing, and people who speak other languages than English with their colleagues. > For example nginx is engine-ex not en-jinks. They often seem intentionally hard or ambiguous to pronounce. I think it's a side-effect of the desire to create a name for your project that is both short and unique.
- dylan604 6y ago>I think it's a side-effect of the desire to create a name for your project that is both short and unique. Wheel Of Fortune has taught us that vowels are expensive, so best not have any in your name.
- OakNinja 6y agoHave you met anyone who is confused about how to pronounce nginx? I haven’t, but I have met _a lot_ of people who have trouble writing it correctly. It all started with all good .com domains being taken, and now, here we are.
- catlifeonmars 6y agoI did not know how to pronounce it correctly up until last year, when I first heard it spoken by a colleague.
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- OakNinja 6y agoI’m on the S-Q-L side of saying that both is correct, and the accepted answer below agrees with both of us. https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/7231/how-is-sql-pronounced https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/7231/how-is-sql-...
- mgerdts 6y agoWhen David DeWitt (of "DeWitt Clause" fame) introduced SQL in while teaching CS564, he made it clear that SQL was pronounced as three letters. I recall him saying that Sequel was a distinct language. The info I can find on SEQUEL today suggests he was trying to distinguish modern (1994) versions of SQL from the early versions. Or maybe he was afraid someone in a suit[1] would show up to admonish him for improper use of a trademark[2]. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15887145 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15887145 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
- ratsmack 6y agoMaybe we should break down the semantics of WYSIWYG while we're at it.
- worik 6y agoTo be truly one of the cool kids, and not a trend follower at all it is: "Structured Query Language" For the super cool who use the one true vendor it is: "Microsoft Structured Query Language Server"
- stjohnswarts 6y agoSQL is one that I regularly flip flop just to annoy people :) .
- gweinberg 6y agoI pronounce it "squeal like a pig". "Squeal" is as good a pronunciation for SQL as "sequel", and indeed better because it saves a syllable. But after "squeal", who can resist adding "like a pig"?
- michaelcampbell 6y ago"as good as", I guess, other than the point of language is to transmit ideas, and if you're the only one that says something in a certain way for some pedantic "it's as good as" reason, you've failed. I guess reasonable people can disagree.
- worik 6y agoI think that a point of language is to express ideas. Bullseye. There are many points to language - quite a porcupine....