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> and I don’t want my kids seeing that stuff... They will, and they will fuck/get fucked too. This is called life.

crazydoggers 5y ago
No they won’t... because I pay attention to what my kids consume. They’ll see it when they’re older, and when they’re are no longer at risk of sexual predators. My parents managed it. To assume it’s a forgone conclusion is just laziness and bad parenting. There are age appropriateness for these things and ages when they’re introduced. If you don’t think that’s an issue, then you don’t understand how the world of sexual predation works in which kids are groomed. I take my responsibility to protect my kids seriously. And I want media that makes that possible. Go have your crap elsewhere, because it’s a matter of safety, not prudishness.
- mnouquet 5y ago
  I've been jerking off on porn since I'm 14, believe me, my parents didn't know (thanks to me coding apps to cover my tracks) not approved. No matter how puritan you are, when puberty hits, they'll find a way.
  - crazydoggers 5y ago
    TMI. Also given past comments I feel like you yourself prove my point... you seem to be the type that objectifies women and sees sex as a power/control thing. Sex for most people is about love, not dominance. And the porn you’ve been consuming since childhood objectifies women, and makes them seem like sex toys. If you think those women like that kind of stuff, and aren’t just doing it for a paycheck, then you haven’t been around many women. And just to be clear, this is not a “Puritan” thing. I have no issue with consenting adults watching and enjoying sexual imagery. The problem again is those who groom children. Unfortunately the reality is that many men do use sex as a power and control over those with less power. If you think about the me too movement, and how much sexual predation has been occurring to adult women behind closed doors... now imagine what happens with children who really have no voice.
    - mnouquet 5y ago
      My gf started jerking herself off at 13... What is she, a dangerous type that objectify men and see sex as a power/control thing ? Female sexual "predation" is pretty much universal. I can tell you that my un-neutered cat try to have his way on a daily basis and my pussy does not complain about it on twitter... and I'm not even talking about my male dog having to prove himself by showing he could dominate my female dog to be allowed to "get it in".
      - crazydoggers 5y ago
        > My gf started jerking herself off at 13... What is she, a dangerous type that objectify men and see sex as a power/control thing ? The fact that you talk about your girlfriend like that on here speaks to a lack of respect. How would she feel if she knew you were sharing those details I wonder? There’s a ton of data showing that early sexualization is very bad for female self esteem, causes eating disorders, etc. In addition for any sex, male, female, etc. it leads to greater rates of risky sexual behavior including multiple partners, unprotected sex, unwanted pregnancy, etc etc. Unwanted pregnancy is a huge driver of continued poverty, lack of ability to continue education, etc. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-healing/201208/overexposed-and-under-prepared-the-effects-early-exposure-sexual-content https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-healing/201208/... > Female sexual "predation" is pretty much universal. Really, that’s your response? Do you perhaps see the irony in trying to defend children seeing sexual material by immediately trying to justify and okay sexual dominance based on animal behavior? There’s lots of sexual predation among animals. Doesn’t mean I want that for myself or my family. Again, only proving my point by the way you speak about it. You fail the gom jabbar.
        mnouquet 5y ago
        > There’s a ton of data showing that early sexualization is very bad for female self esteem, causes eating disorders, etc Given that at least 3/4 of the US has eating disorders, especially among women, it's an easy correlation. > Do you perhaps see the irony in trying to defend children seeing sexual material by immediately trying to justify and okay sexual dominance based on animal behavior? I'm just pointing the US is full of liberal theories, yet awfully prude... well, unless it's about homosexuality, where it's OK for young children to witness sexually explicit behaviors (if not total depravity and including fetishist and BDSM exposure) during pride events, but that's another debate altogether. You don't have to be 18 to know very well how babies are made. For fuck say, you can't even say "fuck" on TV! > There’s lots of sexual predation among animals. Doesn’t mean I want that for myself or my family. Again, only proving my point by the way you speak about it. It's actually all the same pattern in mammals, female are more likely to give it to confident male (often expressed through the dark triad, machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy) than beta cucks - I stopped counting the number of hardcore feminist who ended up on their knees, asking, sorry begging to be used. It's almost getting boring. > You fail the gom jabbar. Actually, I'm getting off just thinking about it ! Before commenting back, try looking into that place where you dare not look! You'll find me there, staring out at you. [...] I remember your gom jabbar, now you'll remember mine. I can kill with a word.

No they won’t... because I pay attention to what my kids consume. They’ll see it when they’re older, and when they’re are no longer at risk of sexual predators. My parents managed it. To assume it’s a forgone conclusion is just laziness and bad parenting. There are age appropriateness for these things and ages when they’re introduced. If you don’t think that’s an issue, then you don’t understand how the world of sexual predation works in which kids are groomed. I take my responsibility to protect my kids seriously. And I want media that makes that possible. Go have your crap elsewhere, because it’s a matter of safety, not prudishness.

mnouquet 5y ago
I've been jerking off on porn since I'm 14, believe me, my parents didn't know (thanks to me coding apps to cover my tracks) not approved. No matter how puritan you are, when puberty hits, they'll find a way.
- crazydoggers 5y ago
  TMI. Also given past comments I feel like you yourself prove my point... you seem to be the type that objectifies women and sees sex as a power/control thing. Sex for most people is about love, not dominance. And the porn you’ve been consuming since childhood objectifies women, and makes them seem like sex toys. If you think those women like that kind of stuff, and aren’t just doing it for a paycheck, then you haven’t been around many women. And just to be clear, this is not a “Puritan” thing. I have no issue with consenting adults watching and enjoying sexual imagery. The problem again is those who groom children. Unfortunately the reality is that many men do use sex as a power and control over those with less power. If you think about the me too movement, and how much sexual predation has been occurring to adult women behind closed doors... now imagine what happens with children who really have no voice.
  - mnouquet 5y ago
    My gf started jerking herself off at 13... What is she, a dangerous type that objectify men and see sex as a power/control thing ? Female sexual "predation" is pretty much universal. I can tell you that my un-neutered cat try to have his way on a daily basis and my pussy does not complain about it on twitter... and I'm not even talking about my male dog having to prove himself by showing he could dominate my female dog to be allowed to "get it in".
    - crazydoggers 5y ago
      > My gf started jerking herself off at 13... What is she, a dangerous type that objectify men and see sex as a power/control thing ? The fact that you talk about your girlfriend like that on here speaks to a lack of respect. How would she feel if she knew you were sharing those details I wonder? There’s a ton of data showing that early sexualization is very bad for female self esteem, causes eating disorders, etc. In addition for any sex, male, female, etc. it leads to greater rates of risky sexual behavior including multiple partners, unprotected sex, unwanted pregnancy, etc etc. Unwanted pregnancy is a huge driver of continued poverty, lack of ability to continue education, etc. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-healing/201208/overexposed-and-under-prepared-the-effects-early-exposure-sexual-content https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-healing/201208/... > Female sexual "predation" is pretty much universal. Really, that’s your response? Do you perhaps see the irony in trying to defend children seeing sexual material by immediately trying to justify and okay sexual dominance based on animal behavior? There’s lots of sexual predation among animals. Doesn’t mean I want that for myself or my family. Again, only proving my point by the way you speak about it. You fail the gom jabbar.
      - mnouquet 5y ago
        > There’s a ton of data showing that early sexualization is very bad for female self esteem, causes eating disorders, etc Given that at least 3/4 of the US has eating disorders, especially among women, it's an easy correlation. > Do you perhaps see the irony in trying to defend children seeing sexual material by immediately trying to justify and okay sexual dominance based on animal behavior? I'm just pointing the US is full of liberal theories, yet awfully prude... well, unless it's about homosexuality, where it's OK for young children to witness sexually explicit behaviors (if not total depravity and including fetishist and BDSM exposure) during pride events, but that's another debate altogether. You don't have to be 18 to know very well how babies are made. For fuck say, you can't even say "fuck" on TV! > There’s lots of sexual predation among animals. Doesn’t mean I want that for myself or my family. Again, only proving my point by the way you speak about it. It's actually all the same pattern in mammals, female are more likely to give it to confident male (often expressed through the dark triad, machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy) than beta cucks - I stopped counting the number of hardcore feminist who ended up on their knees, asking, sorry begging to be used. It's almost getting boring. > You fail the gom jabbar. Actually, I'm getting off just thinking about it ! Before commenting back, try looking into that place where you dare not look! You'll find me there, staring out at you. [...] I remember your gom jabbar, now you'll remember mine. I can kill with a word.