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I'm willing to forgive pretty much anyone who's fooled by something that also fooled Paul Erdos: https://www.wired.com/2014/11/monty-hall-erdos-limited-minds/ h

I'm willing to forgive pretty much anyone who's fooled by something that also fooled Paul Erdos: https://www.wired.com/2014/11/monty-hall-erdos-limited-minds/ https://www.wired.com/2014/11/monty-hall-erdos-limited-minds...

macintux 5y ago
Being wrong isn’t a crime. Harshly lambasting a woman for, largely, being a woman and disagreeing with you is the problem.
- nextlevelwizard 5y ago
  Jumping to sexist assumptions is also a problem.
  - magnio 5y ago
    So is not reading the article: > Maybe women look at math problems differently than men. > “I still think you’re wrong,” wrote one man, nearly a year later. “There is such a thing as female logic.”
  - devilduck 5y ago
    There was plenty of actual sexism launched at her "wizard"
- casefields 5y ago
  I don't see the problem. We are still doing this today. Pick a hot button topic that has some "consensus" then watch how outliers get treated. For example, COVID and climate change. I'm not saying people going completely against the narrative but professionals publicizing concerns or data that just doesn't fit the current narrative. This is more of meritocracy run amok. I've got the fancy credentials which shows I'm brilliant, and I know it. World renowned Harvard Philosopher Michael Sandel on The Tyranny of Merit: https://youtu.be/Qewckuxa9hw https://youtu.be/Qewckuxa9hw
crooked-v 5y ago
Something tells me Erdős didn't resort immediately to personal insults when faced with the problem, though.
- astrange 5y ago
  I'm not sure about that since Erdos had the typical pre-GenZ-wokeness vocabulary of a nerd, where everything they said was worded as an insult to people less smart or with different hobbies than him. To the point where it's in his Wikipedia article: > Women were "bosses" who "captured" men as "slaves" by marrying them. Divorced men were "liberated". > People who stopped doing mathematics had "died", while people who died had "left". > Music (except classical music) was "noise". (Did boomers ever notice all their wife-based humor was about how much they hated theirs?)
  - mcphage 5y ago
    > Did boomers ever notice all their wife-based humor was about how much they hated theirs? Probably, because the husband-based humor was the same.
- TchoBeer 5y ago
  Something tells me Erdős wasn't immune to sexism and would've probably not been immune to being a bit sexist here too.
  - pmiller2 5y ago
    Something tells me he probably didn't care who was explaining it to him, as long as he understood.
v64 5y ago
The epilogue: "A few days after Erdos left, he telephoned to say that Ron Graham of AT&T explained to him the reasoning behind the answer and that now he understood. He proceeded to tell me the reasoning but I couldn’t fathom his explanation." -- Vazsonyi [1] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20140413131827/http://www.decisionsciences.org/DecisionLine/Vol30/30_1/vazs30_1.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20140413131827/http://www.decisi...

macintux 5y ago

Being wrong isn’t a crime. Harshly lambasting a woman for, largely, being a woman and disagreeing with you is the problem.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago
Jumping to sexist assumptions is also a problem.
- magnio 5y ago
  So is not reading the article: > Maybe women look at math problems differently than men. > “I still think you’re wrong,” wrote one man, nearly a year later. “There is such a thing as female logic.”
- devilduck 5y ago
  There was plenty of actual sexism launched at her "wizard"
casefields 5y ago
I don't see the problem. We are still doing this today. Pick a hot button topic that has some "consensus" then watch how outliers get treated. For example, COVID and climate change. I'm not saying people going completely against the narrative but professionals publicizing concerns or data that just doesn't fit the current narrative. This is more of meritocracy run amok. I've got the fancy credentials which shows I'm brilliant, and I know it. World renowned Harvard Philosopher Michael Sandel on The Tyranny of Merit: https://youtu.be/Qewckuxa9hw https://youtu.be/Qewckuxa9hw

crooked-v 5y ago

Something tells me Erdős didn't resort immediately to personal insults when faced with the problem, though.

astrange 5y ago
I'm not sure about that since Erdos had the typical pre-GenZ-wokeness vocabulary of a nerd, where everything they said was worded as an insult to people less smart or with different hobbies than him. To the point where it's in his Wikipedia article: > Women were "bosses" who "captured" men as "slaves" by marrying them. Divorced men were "liberated". > People who stopped doing mathematics had "died", while people who died had "left". > Music (except classical music) was "noise". (Did boomers ever notice all their wife-based humor was about how much they hated theirs?)
- mcphage 5y ago
  > Did boomers ever notice all their wife-based humor was about how much they hated theirs? Probably, because the husband-based humor was the same.
TchoBeer 5y ago
Something tells me Erdős wasn't immune to sexism and would've probably not been immune to being a bit sexist here too.
- pmiller2 5y ago
  Something tells me he probably didn't care who was explaining it to him, as long as he understood.

v64 5y ago

The epilogue: "A few days after Erdos left, he telephoned to say that Ron Graham of AT&T explained to him the reasoning behind the answer and that now he understood. He proceeded to tell me the reasoning but I couldn’t fathom his explanation." -- Vazsonyi [1] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20140413131827/http://www.decisionsciences.org/DecisionLine/Vol30/30_1/vazs30_1.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20140413131827/http://www.decisi...