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> rewards high volume publishers Am I the only one that finds this backwards? I've always though it should be a "progressive tax" (for lack of a better term)..

> rewards high volume publishers Am I the only one that finds this backwards? I've always though it should be a "progressive tax" (for lack of a better term)... game companies that make under, say, $1mil a year shouldn't pay 30% and watch larger companies making 100m+ a year pay 10% (or whatever sweetheart deal). My other problem is FORCING the use of payment systems... if Apple provides a system? fine... but not letting companies use alternatives is assinine and my large honest complaint. No reason Netflix, Epic or other companies should be forced to pay Apple when they can host their own infrastructure. (same for google/steam/etc)

Jcowell 5y ago
One reason (one I find valid) is user experience. Digital Purchases made on iOS are extremely easy to deal with since they are all dealt through Apple. Especially the way subscriptions are done. It’s consistent and I always know where to go for refunds in the event that’s needed. I would also prefer not giving every company payment information if I can help it.
- wernercd 5y ago
  That's fine and dandy... but I've never had an issue with payment processors in Netflix or other subscription services I use. It's nice having it one place but why should Netflix pay 30% to someone who signs up on Apple and then switches to Android? or never uses Netflix on the iPhone other than to signup for the service? I'm picking on Netflix but the point stands - many companies are able to stand up payment processes. It's not a hard problem and it's not uncommon for companies to have them. "because apple" isn't a reason to tax a company 30% for things like Netflix that are only tangentally iPhone or when a company can provide a standard level of payment processing. Apples payment processing isnt THAT good. Definitely not 30% good.
- alexvoda 5y ago
  And it is perfectly fine to require any app available on the Apple App Store to offer Apple Payments as the default option. Anyone who wants to stick to Apple payments should be able to do so. It is not ok to block any other option or even mentions of external options when you are also the gatekeeper of the only marketplace. The monopoly Apple has in this case is on distribution of software to iOS devices. They are leveraging this monopoly power to maintain a monopoly on payments. Antitrust laws say this leveraging should not be allowed.

Jcowell 5y ago

One reason (one I find valid) is user experience. Digital Purchases made on iOS are extremely easy to deal with since they are all dealt through Apple. Especially the way subscriptions are done. It’s consistent and I always know where to go for refunds in the event that’s needed. I would also prefer not giving every company payment information if I can help it.

wernercd 5y ago
That's fine and dandy... but I've never had an issue with payment processors in Netflix or other subscription services I use. It's nice having it one place but why should Netflix pay 30% to someone who signs up on Apple and then switches to Android? or never uses Netflix on the iPhone other than to signup for the service? I'm picking on Netflix but the point stands - many companies are able to stand up payment processes. It's not a hard problem and it's not uncommon for companies to have them. "because apple" isn't a reason to tax a company 30% for things like Netflix that are only tangentally iPhone or when a company can provide a standard level of payment processing. Apples payment processing isnt THAT good. Definitely not 30% good.
alexvoda 5y ago
And it is perfectly fine to require any app available on the Apple App Store to offer Apple Payments as the default option. Anyone who wants to stick to Apple payments should be able to do so. It is not ok to block any other option or even mentions of external options when you are also the gatekeeper of the only marketplace. The monopoly Apple has in this case is on distribution of software to iOS devices. They are leveraging this monopoly power to maintain a monopoly on payments. Antitrust laws say this leveraging should not be allowed.