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Yes, that's a good assumption because there is nothing secret about it. I'm telling you, and everyone, that the entire phrasing of "leaks" and "secret" and "lo

Yes, that's a good assumption because there is nothing secret about it. I'm telling you, and everyone, that the entire phrasing of "leaks" and "secret" and "loopholes" is either complete clickbait or the musing of the completely ignorant, and both of those outcomes means you should go to the actual source of truth instead of bothering with this wealth-porn. And yet you want to argue that. Plato-esque.

walrus01 6y ago
The massive pile of internal client correspondence, documents and information that escaped from Mossack Fonseca, from their internal file servers, wasn't "secret"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossack_Fonseca https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossack_Fonseca https://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/
- vmception 6y ago
  there were no "secret" uses of combinations of entities or laws that was new or surprising from this leak and Mossack Fonseca, big 4 accounting firms, and many other providers - as well as anybody with decent reading comprehension skills - can do it as well. that has nothing to do with client data, which is "secret" even in the "I overpaid my percentage of taxes onshore by not deducting anything" world
  - walrus01 6y ago
    You seem to be operating from the position that there is nothing morally wrong with the one percent using every available loophole to pay as little taxes as possible. I'm sure all the laws and corporate structures Mossack Fonsecka made use of for their clients were perfectly 'legal' in the jurisdictions in which the paperwork and shell entities exist(ed). Where I think we have a significant difference of opinion is whether something should be done to rectify the question of hiding assets offshore.
    - vmception 6y ago
      Our particular comment thread doesn't show me having any strong opinion on anything. You have to assume that the absence of disdain means tacit consent. I do personally hate ignorance and always had high marks on reading comprehension, our conversation was exclusively congruent with me saying a different source of truth conforms to reality and the authorities in this reality.
      - 0x000000E2 6y ago
        > I do personally hate ignorance and always had high marks on reading comprehension It's unusual to be both very smart and hostile to those you consider lessor than you but carry on I guess

walrus01 6y ago

The massive pile of internal client correspondence, documents and information that escaped from Mossack Fonseca, from their internal file servers, wasn't "secret"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossack_Fonseca https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossack_Fonseca https://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/

vmception 6y ago
there were no "secret" uses of combinations of entities or laws that was new or surprising from this leak and Mossack Fonseca, big 4 accounting firms, and many other providers - as well as anybody with decent reading comprehension skills - can do it as well. that has nothing to do with client data, which is "secret" even in the "I overpaid my percentage of taxes onshore by not deducting anything" world
- walrus01 6y ago
  You seem to be operating from the position that there is nothing morally wrong with the one percent using every available loophole to pay as little taxes as possible. I'm sure all the laws and corporate structures Mossack Fonsecka made use of for their clients were perfectly 'legal' in the jurisdictions in which the paperwork and shell entities exist(ed). Where I think we have a significant difference of opinion is whether something should be done to rectify the question of hiding assets offshore.
  - vmception 6y ago
    Our particular comment thread doesn't show me having any strong opinion on anything. You have to assume that the absence of disdain means tacit consent. I do personally hate ignorance and always had high marks on reading comprehension, our conversation was exclusively congruent with me saying a different source of truth conforms to reality and the authorities in this reality.
    - 0x000000E2 6y ago
      > I do personally hate ignorance and always had high marks on reading comprehension It's unusual to be both very smart and hostile to those you consider lessor than you but carry on I guess