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Isn't this the case already (to the extent that each security-focused user finds it practical)? Would decreasing top-down regulation somehow make it easier for

Isn't this the case already (to the extent that each security-focused user finds it practical)? Would decreasing top-down regulation somehow make it easier for those users to select vendors based on their security practices? Or perhaps, would it increase the number of security-focused users? Help me understand.

nickff 5y ago
Top-down regulations often give people a false sense of security, so they don't bother doing their own research and 'watching their backs'. Regulations are also generally 'sticky', so many originators focus on bare minimum compliance, and there is a dearth of variety. Another related problem is that regulations often inentivize ignorance; the originator is usually better off not learning about breaches, so they are not as vigilant as many users think they should be.
- lupire 5y ago
  That means the punishments aren't heavy enough.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  But, again, in this case, there is zero regulation. So the situation you seemingly prefer is what is happening right now.
  - nickff 5y ago
    I was attempting to respond to a commenter asking: >“For the anti-regulation guys, please explain how free market helps in this or similar cases...” And a further comment asking: >”Help me understand.” Given the response, it appears as though my attempt at elucidation is not appreciated; this being the case, I will refrain from further explanation.
    - user-the-name 5y ago
      But you are not helping anyone understand. You say, "if A, then B". But we look at reality, and we see that A is in fact the case, but B is nowhere to be seen. The only thing that elucidates is that libertarian ideology is largely a fantasy.
    - simion314 5y ago
      So how did the missing regulation helped in this case? You also "forgot" to explain what is wrong with regulation about transparency(tell me what you pt in the food, tell me if you are tracking me, tell me if you are aware that my device has a defect)

nickff 5y ago

Top-down regulations often give people a false sense of security, so they don't bother doing their own research and 'watching their backs'. Regulations are also generally 'sticky', so many originators focus on bare minimum compliance, and there is a dearth of variety. Another related problem is that regulations often inentivize ignorance; the originator is usually better off not learning about breaches, so they are not as vigilant as many users think they should be.

lupire 5y ago
That means the punishments aren't heavy enough.
user-the-name 5y ago
But, again, in this case, there is zero regulation. So the situation you seemingly prefer is what is happening right now.
- nickff 5y ago
  I was attempting to respond to a commenter asking: >“For the anti-regulation guys, please explain how free market helps in this or similar cases...” And a further comment asking: >”Help me understand.” Given the response, it appears as though my attempt at elucidation is not appreciated; this being the case, I will refrain from further explanation.
  - user-the-name 5y ago
    But you are not helping anyone understand. You say, "if A, then B". But we look at reality, and we see that A is in fact the case, but B is nowhere to be seen. The only thing that elucidates is that libertarian ideology is largely a fantasy.
  - simion314 5y ago
    So how did the missing regulation helped in this case? You also "forgot" to explain what is wrong with regulation about transparency(tell me what you pt in the food, tell me if you are tracking me, tell me if you are aware that my device has a defect)