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Great timing for me. I've spent the past week setting up a new "Mail-in-a-Box" email server after procrastinating past the point of upgrading my old one. I'd m
by oblib 5y ago
Great timing for me. I've spent the past week setting up a new "Mail-in-a-Box" email server after procrastinating past the point of upgrading my old one.
I'd much rather not run my own email server but after 20 years of developing web apps that need to send emails I've concluded the only thing worse than having to build and manage my own is using 3rd parties to handle email.
That said, the latest MAIB is pretty sweet and it's a bit easier to get de-blacklisted now than it was 5-10 years ago, but it's still a pita.
- crispyporkbites 5y agoWhy is using 3rd party email providers to send email so painful?
- oblib 5y agoThe succinct reason is you're dependent upon them. Over the years I've invested time in learning and implementing their API only to see them get acquired by a competitor that told me I had to use theirs. And early on I had one spamming with my domain names. And I had one shut down without notice. Nowadays they can be expensive. You can spin up a $12 a month DO server that will handle quite a bit of mail. For me, MAIB having a DNS server built-in was a big plus too. I have several domain names and email being sent by them or just email addresses I used for others to contact me, and alias addresses that all go to one email box, and some of my domain names are just for fun. For those I can create a quick email alias so it sends email to an existing account. I use my DNS server IP address first on the list of dns servers in my network preferences on my Mac so when I make any changes to the sites I'm working on they show up instantly. I don't have to wait for them to propagate to find out I broke something. So, it's really more than just email, but having that completely under my control has been a good thing. A pita sometimes, but still a good thing.
- sbayeta 5y agoWhat VPS provider are you using? I set up MiaB on Digitalocean a few weeks ago only to find out they won't open port 25.
- oblib 5y agoDigitalOcean. They have entire ranges of IP addresses block by some of the blocklist but my users are here in the U.S. and from what I could find those are mostly used outside the U.S. It's a hit or miss thing. If you spin up a new "Droplet" you should do an IP blacklist check on before your build your server. If it's on more than just a few you might want to start over.