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Steve Jobs didn't want it on the platform back in the day. I think that's about it.

by dkarras 5y ago

pmoriarty 5y ago
Did he say why?
- hellbannedguy 5y ago
  I'm not a prude, but why ruin a family friendly product with porn?
  - pmoriarty 5y ago
    Would it be ruined? It's not difficult to make the porn opt-in, so you wouldn't even see it if you didn't want to.
  - katbyte 5y ago
    and it's certainly readily available via a browser
  - neogodless 5y ago
    Are you talking about computers?
  - dkarras 5y ago
    I mean, we are not saying Apple should have shipped iPhones with porn preinstalled. What is the harm in allowing developers offer porn content FOR PEOPLE THAT SEARCH FOR IT IN THE APP STORE, possibly after turning on a flag for nsfw content? That is not possible, that content is not allowed on the app store, ever. It is their right to do so of course, their store and product and all, but people that support the decision confuse me a bit. There is literally no harm to you if it was allowed. You won't see it unless you search for it.
    - bombcar 5y ago
      Probably because it seems to inherently attract a very “spammy” group that does every trick in the book to appear in front of people, so it would be an endless game of whack-a-mile making sure they didn’t appear in searches.
    - jamil7 5y ago
      Not saying I necessarily agree with the decision but I can imagine there is an argument to be made for moderation. Just banning it outright probably saves them a bunch of money and overhead.
      - johnnyanmac 5y ago
        Hate to say I agree. Valve is going through this right now on Steam. They claimed back in 2018 to "allow everything onto the Steam Store, except for things that we decide are illegal, or straight up trolling. ". In reality over 3 years, those lines became more like a mine field. Up to and including non-sexual Visual Novels that happen to be set in school (something even pre-2018 Steam allowed). It's to a point where it feels like the one who wrote that blog doesn't even work at the company anymore and the new moderators would rather just ban it all over again. Really sucks for devs, but I imagine Valve isn't having a good time either. I think this is ultimately reflective of America's attitudes towards nudity as a whole and their ability to communicate around it. But ultimately, I don't expect some app stores to go up to bat to challenge that stereotype, so I can't blame them for just saying "no, leave that all out". Not unlike political topics on a casual forum.
  - johnnyanmac 5y ago
    Because I don't think a general purpose computing device is inherently family friendly. No more than I think any given day commuting around town is.
- SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
  The process of creating a family isn't family-friendly.
- high_derivative 5y ago
  Apple likes a family friendly facade on its products of Chinese slave labour

Steve Jobs didn't want it on the platform back in the day. I think that's about it.

pmoriarty 5y ago

Did he say why?

hellbannedguy 5y ago
I'm not a prude, but why ruin a family friendly product with porn?
- pmoriarty 5y ago
  Would it be ruined? It's not difficult to make the porn opt-in, so you wouldn't even see it if you didn't want to.
- katbyte 5y ago
  and it's certainly readily available via a browser
- neogodless 5y ago
  Are you talking about computers?
- dkarras 5y ago
  I mean, we are not saying Apple should have shipped iPhones with porn preinstalled. What is the harm in allowing developers offer porn content FOR PEOPLE THAT SEARCH FOR IT IN THE APP STORE, possibly after turning on a flag for nsfw content? That is not possible, that content is not allowed on the app store, ever. It is their right to do so of course, their store and product and all, but people that support the decision confuse me a bit. There is literally no harm to you if it was allowed. You won't see it unless you search for it.
  - bombcar 5y ago
    Probably because it seems to inherently attract a very “spammy” group that does every trick in the book to appear in front of people, so it would be an endless game of whack-a-mile making sure they didn’t appear in searches.
  - jamil7 5y ago
    Not saying I necessarily agree with the decision but I can imagine there is an argument to be made for moderation. Just banning it outright probably saves them a bunch of money and overhead.
    - johnnyanmac 5y ago
      Hate to say I agree. Valve is going through this right now on Steam. They claimed back in 2018 to "allow everything onto the Steam Store, except for things that we decide are illegal, or straight up trolling. ". In reality over 3 years, those lines became more like a mine field. Up to and including non-sexual Visual Novels that happen to be set in school (something even pre-2018 Steam allowed). It's to a point where it feels like the one who wrote that blog doesn't even work at the company anymore and the new moderators would rather just ban it all over again. Really sucks for devs, but I imagine Valve isn't having a good time either. I think this is ultimately reflective of America's attitudes towards nudity as a whole and their ability to communicate around it. But ultimately, I don't expect some app stores to go up to bat to challenge that stereotype, so I can't blame them for just saying "no, leave that all out". Not unlike political topics on a casual forum.
- johnnyanmac 5y ago
  Because I don't think a general purpose computing device is inherently family friendly. No more than I think any given day commuting around town is.
SAI_Peregrinus 5y ago
The process of creating a family isn't family-friendly.
high_derivative 5y ago
Apple likes a family friendly facade on its products of Chinese slave labour