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"I'm talking 20th or 21st century classical" I can't consider anything so recent to be "classical" -- it might imitate the style of older music, but to call th

"I'm talking 20th or 21st century classical" I can't consider anything so recent to be "classical" -- it might imitate the style of older music, but to call that 'classical' makes the word basically meaningless, or that it's only a style (however that would be defined). To me, 'classical' means that it has survived and thrived across _many_ years.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> . To me, 'classical' means that it has survived and thrived across _many_ years. Classical is either all of Western art music or a particular style within that body whose original heyday was between that of Baroque and Romantic; creating a third definition doesn’t aid in communication.
bryanrasmussen 5y ago
>To me, 'classical' means that it has survived and thrived across _many_ years. I believe that would normally be referred to as a classic.
- kbelder 5y ago
  The music is classic? Yes. Classical music? No!
SyzygistSix 5y ago
I thought the same way and referred to modern classical music as symphonic music or composition. But a professor friend and composer taught me that modern symphonic music is referred to as classical music. Probably because the approach is a classical one, even if the composer is Stockhausen.
stephenhuey 5y ago
I am close to people who write and play compositions with these traditional orchestral instruments today and they refer to these pieces as “new music” although most people would hear them as “classical” pieces. Most people call a wide swath of several centuries of music “classical” but in the music world, there was technically a very particular Classical music period in the 1700s and early 1800s. When musicians today study at top music schools, no one there calls “classical” what most people outside that world call classical. They refer to the particular time period because they distinguish unique traits between each in the way we might distinguish fairly similar genres today. So, as I said, if some composer today comes up with a new concerto the people in that world call it “new music”.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> . To me, 'classical' means that it has survived and thrived across _many_ years. Classical is either all of Western art music or a particular style within that body whose original heyday was between that of Baroque and Romantic; creating a third definition doesn’t aid in communication.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago

>To me, 'classical' means that it has survived and thrived across _many_ years. I believe that would normally be referred to as a classic.

kbelder 5y ago
The music is classic? Yes. Classical music? No!

SyzygistSix 5y ago

I thought the same way and referred to modern classical music as symphonic music or composition. But a professor friend and composer taught me that modern symphonic music is referred to as classical music. Probably because the approach is a classical one, even if the composer is Stockhausen.

stephenhuey 5y ago

I am close to people who write and play compositions with these traditional orchestral instruments today and they refer to these pieces as “new music” although most people would hear them as “classical” pieces. Most people call a wide swath of several centuries of music “classical” but in the music world, there was technically a very particular Classical music period in the 1700s and early 1800s. When musicians today study at top music schools, no one there calls “classical” what most people outside that world call classical. They refer to the particular time period because they distinguish unique traits between each in the way we might distinguish fairly similar genres today. So, as I said, if some composer today comes up with a new concerto the people in that world call it “new music”.