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Even in a tweet about algorithms the guy can’t help but dunk on men to show what a nice guy he is.

robertwx 5y ago
Rainbow, BLM, it's all there, so he can afford the sharp reaction towards the "random dudes". Without the protective ideological shield, that reaction would have been deemed "hostile" and "toxic" by the twitteria.
domnomnom 5y ago
Lmao good catch. Can someone explain the alternate reality we seem to exist in? Do y’all see these people around a lot?
anotha1 5y ago
Weak ad hominem attack. Not sure why you wasted a comment for it.
- nvilcins 5y ago
  I think your comment better applies to the tweet being referred to, though, not sure "ad hominem" extends to a group of unspecified people.
  - HKH2 5y ago
    I can't see why stereotyping (especially that which is uncharitable) shouldn't be classed as an ad hominem attack.
    - marrs 5y ago
      Is observing that someone conforms to a stereotype the same as stereotyping them though?
      - HKH2 5y ago
        That is beside the point. Insofar as you are appealing to people's prejudices, you're most probably not making a charitable argument.
- fuzxi 5y ago
  I missed the part where this was a debate
aulin 5y ago
I had a good laugh because that's actually a comment against the mansplaining common narrative, people will jump to explain things everytime they feel it's easy to add their contribute, being the audience a woman or a random guy on the internet or anyone they perceive weak enough to be a good target to show off their knowledge and skills
- justwalt 5y ago
  I think that’s a really cynical way to look at it, especially when the explanations are public. People can explain things to others without there being a hidden power dynamic.
- happytoexplain 5y ago
  How is an example in another context a "comment against the mansplaining common narrative"? Even your explanation makes it pretty clear that a man-to-woman combination would be one of the most common versions.
  - aulin 5y ago
    He's the one who extrapolated the context, my point is that the explainer does it for reasons that have nothing to do with the gender of the receiver. And this is one example
- DangitBobby 5y ago
  > Update: random dudes are now saying the unsolicited toxic replies are actually my fault for saying something in the first place. So NOW I feel like I've gotten a little glimpse of what it's like to be a woman on the internet. I was very curious about how this is evidence that women specifically get berated on the internet rather than evidence that everyone is a potential target. Obviously from this interaction alone you can't tell if it happens more to women or not but... I thought it was kind of funny to say "this thing happened to me as a man and now I really understand that this thing happens to women."
happytoexplain 5y ago
The comment you're referring to didn't occur in the tweet about algorithms - it was a reactive comment that occurred in response to an experience that happened after the tweet. Also, I'm not sure what "to show what a nice guy he is" means here, though I'm guessing it's just being used an insult in the same family as "white knight". I can't know whether his comment was reasonable without looking through the comments he was referring to (and neither can you), but even given that he was being unreasonable, you chose to be unreasonable in turn.
- LudwigNagasena 5y ago
  > I can't know whether his comment was reasonable without looking through the comments he was referring to (and neither can you) Nah, I can. It seems quite toxic regardless of what has been said to him. > even given that he was being unreasonable, you chose to be unreasonable in turn I don’t see what is unreasonable about shaming anti-social behavior. When you see any “unsolicited advice”, even between two same gendered persons, as a manifestation of patriarchy you are bound to come off as toxic.

Rainbow, BLM, it's all there, so he can afford the sharp reaction towards the "random dudes". Without the protective ideological shield, that reaction would have been deemed "hostile" and "toxic" by the twitteria.

domnomnom 5y ago

Lmao good catch. Can someone explain the alternate reality we seem to exist in? Do y’all see these people around a lot?

anotha1 5y ago

Weak ad hominem attack. Not sure why you wasted a comment for it.

nvilcins 5y ago
I think your comment better applies to the tweet being referred to, though, not sure "ad hominem" extends to a group of unspecified people.
- HKH2 5y ago
  I can't see why stereotyping (especially that which is uncharitable) shouldn't be classed as an ad hominem attack.
  - marrs 5y ago
    Is observing that someone conforms to a stereotype the same as stereotyping them though?
    - HKH2 5y ago
      That is beside the point. Insofar as you are appealing to people's prejudices, you're most probably not making a charitable argument.
fuzxi 5y ago
I missed the part where this was a debate

aulin 5y ago

I had a good laugh because that's actually a comment against the mansplaining common narrative, people will jump to explain things everytime they feel it's easy to add their contribute, being the audience a woman or a random guy on the internet or anyone they perceive weak enough to be a good target to show off their knowledge and skills

justwalt 5y ago
I think that’s a really cynical way to look at it, especially when the explanations are public. People can explain things to others without there being a hidden power dynamic.
happytoexplain 5y ago
How is an example in another context a "comment against the mansplaining common narrative"? Even your explanation makes it pretty clear that a man-to-woman combination would be one of the most common versions.
- aulin 5y ago
  He's the one who extrapolated the context, my point is that the explainer does it for reasons that have nothing to do with the gender of the receiver. And this is one example
DangitBobby 5y ago
> Update: random dudes are now saying the unsolicited toxic replies are actually my fault for saying something in the first place. So NOW I feel like I've gotten a little glimpse of what it's like to be a woman on the internet. I was very curious about how this is evidence that women specifically get berated on the internet rather than evidence that everyone is a potential target. Obviously from this interaction alone you can't tell if it happens more to women or not but... I thought it was kind of funny to say "this thing happened to me as a man and now I really understand that this thing happens to women."

happytoexplain 5y ago

The comment you're referring to didn't occur in the tweet about algorithms - it was a reactive comment that occurred in response to an experience that happened after the tweet. Also, I'm not sure what "to show what a nice guy he is" means here, though I'm guessing it's just being used an insult in the same family as "white knight". I can't know whether his comment was reasonable without looking through the comments he was referring to (and neither can you), but even given that he was being unreasonable, you chose to be unreasonable in turn.

LudwigNagasena 5y ago
> I can't know whether his comment was reasonable without looking through the comments he was referring to (and neither can you) Nah, I can. It seems quite toxic regardless of what has been said to him. > even given that he was being unreasonable, you chose to be unreasonable in turn I don’t see what is unreasonable about shaming anti-social behavior. When you see any “unsolicited advice”, even between two same gendered persons, as a manifestation of patriarchy you are bound to come off as toxic.