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> Wildfires and earthquakes are the only problems not self inflicted Massive wildfires (vs small distributed fires) are the result of the policy framework that

> Wildfires and earthquakes are the only problems not self inflicted Massive wildfires (vs small distributed fires) are the result of the policy framework that (a) prohibits preventative controlled burns (b) requires immediate containment of any new fire. The old (more flammable) undergrowth never has a chance to burn off and free up the space for (less flammable) new generation. As a result CA is one of the most polluting states in the nation as far as co2 emissions https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-wildfires-carbon-emissions-equal-year-power-pollution-n942756 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-wildfires-ca...

blagie 5y ago
Erm, no. There's a carbon cycle. Trees trap carbon. When they die, trees release carbon. Unless you bury dead trees underground (e.g. as paper, furniture, etc., in deep landfills), in terms net amount of carbon capture, there's no difference between a massive forest fire, periodic controlled burns, decay, etc. They differ in time cycles. Even a sequoia will eventually die and release its carbon back into the atmosphere. There's this myth that forests somehow reduce carbon in the atmosphere. Left to themselves, they store carbon, but they can't capture carbon. They're carbon-neutral. If you cut them down and release the carbon, you have a one-time emission. If you plant new ones, you have a one-time carbon capture. The only real net change to CO2 comes from: 1) Extracting dinosaur-era carbon, and releasing it. 2) How we handle our waste. Ironically, composting releases all the plant carbon eventually, while burying it underground stores some carbon away from the atmosphere.
- kewrkewm53 5y ago
  This. The most climate-friendly way to handle forests is to actually cut parts of them down regularly (in a sustainable pace, leaving enough unaffected areas for wildlife), and use the wood for building houses and other elements which stay intact long-term. More buildings should be constructed from wood, less from concrete, which itself causes major co2 emissions.
- jessaustin 5y ago
  This strikes me as a reasonable argument. I wonder why it doesn't work for agriculture, which is regularly criticized for e.g. the carbon in livestock feed?
  - mkj 5y ago
    The fertilizer is made from fossil fuel gas.
- prostoalex 5y ago
  > there's no difference between a massive forest fire, periodic controlled burns, I believe the way it's performed elsewhere is a controlled burn after the older trees had been felled. The burn is for the undergrowth.

blagie 5y ago

Erm, no. There's a carbon cycle. Trees trap carbon. When they die, trees release carbon. Unless you bury dead trees underground (e.g. as paper, furniture, etc., in deep landfills), in terms net amount of carbon capture, there's no difference between a massive forest fire, periodic controlled burns, decay, etc. They differ in time cycles. Even a sequoia will eventually die and release its carbon back into the atmosphere. There's this myth that forests somehow reduce carbon in the atmosphere. Left to themselves, they store carbon, but they can't capture carbon. They're carbon-neutral. If you cut them down and release the carbon, you have a one-time emission. If you plant new ones, you have a one-time carbon capture. The only real net change to CO2 comes from: 1) Extracting dinosaur-era carbon, and releasing it. 2) How we handle our waste. Ironically, composting releases all the plant carbon eventually, while burying it underground stores some carbon away from the atmosphere.

kewrkewm53 5y ago
This. The most climate-friendly way to handle forests is to actually cut parts of them down regularly (in a sustainable pace, leaving enough unaffected areas for wildlife), and use the wood for building houses and other elements which stay intact long-term. More buildings should be constructed from wood, less from concrete, which itself causes major co2 emissions.
jessaustin 5y ago
This strikes me as a reasonable argument. I wonder why it doesn't work for agriculture, which is regularly criticized for e.g. the carbon in livestock feed?
- mkj 5y ago
  The fertilizer is made from fossil fuel gas.
prostoalex 5y ago
> there's no difference between a massive forest fire, periodic controlled burns, I believe the way it's performed elsewhere is a controlled burn after the older trees had been felled. The burn is for the undergrowth.