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Have you given any thought on how you plan on reintegrating into society, and the negative health effects of this type of isolation? I’m curious what the balanc

by mkmk 5y ago

Have you given any thought on how you plan on reintegrating into society, and the negative health effects of this type of isolation? I’m curious what the balance is between covid risk and isolation risk.

giantg2 5y ago
What negsibe health effects? Plenty of people live isolated lives and enjoy it.
- mkmk 5y ago
  Social isolation is, on a population level, associated with poor health outcomes. The data shows this most strongly in the elderly, but it’s true at all ages. Of course, certain individuals may enjoy and thrive in isolated environments. https://www.cdc.gov/aging/publications/features/lonely-older-adults.html https://www.cdc.gov/aging/publications/features/lonely-older...
  - giantg2 5y ago
    I was saying that there are people who live long lives in relative isolation. People in rural parts of the US and places like Alaska. Frankly, I believe those types of studies rreally about happiness with ones social life, not about ones social life relative to others. But that's just my take.
- coldtea 5y ago
  Or think they enjoy it. People can fool themselves in many ways. There are however negative health effects, and have been studied quite well.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    Are there studies that actually show that? It seem to me that lower life expectancy might be true in some cases but not all. I think it's mostly tied to ones enjoyment of being alone (more relative than absolute). Sure some people would not fare well, bit I fo believe other can be truly happy and do fair well. I know a guy in his 70s that lives pretty remotely in Alaska (and have you ever read one man's wilderness). I'm not saying it's for everyone. I am saying that it's essentially stereotyping to say it not for anyone.
    - coldtea 5y ago
      >I'm not saying it's for everyone. I am saying that it's essentially stereotyping to say it not for anyone. Well, someone can smoke for 60 years, from 20 year old onwards, and never get cancer either. Actually, tons do just that. But lung cancer from smoking is not "stereotyping", it's a causual mechanism and a statistical reality. It's not like that you mechanically and deterministically die or your health becomes predictably worse at the individual level. Not to mention there's also the psychological health and the developmental effect.
eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago
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- mkmk 5y ago
  Very interesting response. Thanks for sharing! It would be interesting to hear if this desire for isolation goes away as you start spending more time around people (which, if I’m reading your comment correctly, it seems you will do). Wish you all the best, either way.

by mkmk 5y ago

giantg2 5y ago

What negsibe health effects? Plenty of people live isolated lives and enjoy it.

mkmk 5y ago
Social isolation is, on a population level, associated with poor health outcomes. The data shows this most strongly in the elderly, but it’s true at all ages. Of course, certain individuals may enjoy and thrive in isolated environments. https://www.cdc.gov/aging/publications/features/lonely-older-adults.html https://www.cdc.gov/aging/publications/features/lonely-older...
- giantg2 5y ago
  I was saying that there are people who live long lives in relative isolation. People in rural parts of the US and places like Alaska. Frankly, I believe those types of studies rreally about happiness with ones social life, not about ones social life relative to others. But that's just my take.
coldtea 5y ago
Or think they enjoy it. People can fool themselves in many ways. There are however negative health effects, and have been studied quite well.
- giantg2 5y ago
  Are there studies that actually show that? It seem to me that lower life expectancy might be true in some cases but not all. I think it's mostly tied to ones enjoyment of being alone (more relative than absolute). Sure some people would not fare well, bit I fo believe other can be truly happy and do fair well. I know a guy in his 70s that lives pretty remotely in Alaska (and have you ever read one man's wilderness). I'm not saying it's for everyone. I am saying that it's essentially stereotyping to say it not for anyone.
  - coldtea 5y ago
    >I'm not saying it's for everyone. I am saying that it's essentially stereotyping to say it not for anyone. Well, someone can smoke for 60 years, from 20 year old onwards, and never get cancer either. Actually, tons do just that. But lung cancer from smoking is not "stereotyping", it's a causual mechanism and a statistical reality. It's not like that you mechanically and deterministically die or your health becomes predictably worse at the individual level. Not to mention there's also the psychological health and the developmental effect.

eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 5y ago

[Removed by myself to obey voting result of being a bad post. Please do not beat the post's corpse any further :) Thank you! :)]

mkmk 5y ago
Very interesting response. Thanks for sharing! It would be interesting to hear if this desire for isolation goes away as you start spending more time around people (which, if I’m reading your comment correctly, it seems you will do). Wish you all the best, either way.