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California is just at saturation level. There's just too many people for the small strip of coastal land that is inhabitable. All I could think while living the

California is just at saturation level. There's just too many people for the small strip of coastal land that is inhabitable. All I could think while living there for 5 years was how damn cool it must have been in the 60's/70's with literally half as many people. The traffic, the crowds everywhere at all times, it's all just too much at this point. It's still an amazing paradise playground if you're a millionaire. But any normal person just trying to establish themselves can only tread water, nothing more.

baby 5y ago
Hong Kong is laughing at you
blendo 5y ago
I try and imagine the state before the Sacramento, Feather, American, and San Joaquin rivers were dammed, and before 95% of the salmon runs were destroyed. With judicious planning, we could probably restore much of the original (aboriginal) ecosystems by 2200 or so, but I don’t see how we could do that with more than a few million people. Kids, get on it :-)
zucker42 5y ago
What's the evidence that CA's problems are caused by just too many people? Do you think the East Coast (from Boston to DC) is oversaturated?
- refurb 5y ago
  Indeed. Compare the Bay Area to say NYC and it’s not dense at all. SF is a few sq miles of high density surrounded by single family homes. Then expand that across the entire Bay Area.
KirillPanov 5y ago
> All I could think while living there for 5 years was how damn cool it must have been in the 60's/70's with literally half as many people. There are places that are, today, what California was in the 60's/70's. It's springtime, get out there and look for them. I found one and I love it here. Just don't waste your time asking the urbanist hipsters for directions... back in the 1970s they would've been trying to convince you anything outside of NYC was "provincial" -- including San Francisco. Perspective.
- mdhen 5y ago
  and where is the one you've found?
  - KirillPanov 5y ago
    the first rule of Fight Club is...

baby 5y ago

Hong Kong is laughing at you

blendo 5y ago

I try and imagine the state before the Sacramento, Feather, American, and San Joaquin rivers were dammed, and before 95% of the salmon runs were destroyed. With judicious planning, we could probably restore much of the original (aboriginal) ecosystems by 2200 or so, but I don’t see how we could do that with more than a few million people. Kids, get on it :-)

zucker42 5y ago

What's the evidence that CA's problems are caused by just too many people? Do you think the East Coast (from Boston to DC) is oversaturated?

refurb 5y ago
Indeed. Compare the Bay Area to say NYC and it’s not dense at all. SF is a few sq miles of high density surrounded by single family homes. Then expand that across the entire Bay Area.

KirillPanov 5y ago

> All I could think while living there for 5 years was how damn cool it must have been in the 60's/70's with literally half as many people. There are places that are, today, what California was in the 60's/70's. It's springtime, get out there and look for them. I found one and I love it here. Just don't waste your time asking the urbanist hipsters for directions... back in the 1970s they would've been trying to convince you anything outside of NYC was "provincial" -- including San Francisco. Perspective.

mdhen 5y ago
and where is the one you've found?
- KirillPanov 5y ago
  the first rule of Fight Club is...