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I love someone from Florida calling California's political system dysfunctional.

nemo44x 5y ago
I’m not from there or live there (FL or CA) but from the outside looking in, CA is in crisis whether it knows it or not. It’s sick right now but I hope it can get better. FL seems happy.
- WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
  > FL seems happy. Not especially. Rents have tripled and available homes have dropped to ~0, due to a sudden influx of move-ins buying every sq inch of property. Meanwhile wages remain well below national average. Auto, housing and health insurance are each among the highest in the nation. Our homeless population has long been enormous and is getting ready to skyrocket. Excepting kids, socials services for the vulnerable are largely non-existent. We've spent more time in drought than out of it over the last 30 years. The 13th month of summer is the worst btw. Coastal beaches are routinely closed due to high bacteria counts. Past that it's probably like everywhere.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  > FL seems happy. Happily full of voters that collect tons of government aid via Medicare, Social Security, and National Flood Insurance Program, and yet happy to decry government help for anyone else. Let me know when FL has parental leave or any half decent employment laws that help those at the bottom.
  - username90 5y ago
    Florida is a net payer. California is a net beneficiary even though they have so many high end jobs. This includes medicare, social security etc. https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-taxes-federal-services-difference-by-state-2019-1?r=US&IR=T#florida-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-taxes-federal-servic...
    - lotsofpulp 5y ago
      I am not sure why net payer/net beneficiary is relevant, but your link states the opposite of your claim. >The majority of states receive more in federal services than what they pay in federal taxes, but 11 states, including California and New Jersey, spend more than they receive. >We described the difference as the balance of payments. For example, California's balance of payments is -$13.7 billion. This means California residents get less in return than they pay for. >In California, each resident is sending in $348 more than they get back. >Florida: Total balance of payments: $62.4 billion Per capita balance of payments: $2,977 Its also from Sep 2017, after which there were considerable changes to the tax code so it is probably outdated.
    - cptskippy 5y ago
      California receives $12 per resident in Federal aid, Florida receives $2187 per resident. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/federal-aid-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/federal-aid...

I’m not from there or live there (FL or CA) but from the outside looking in, CA is in crisis whether it knows it or not. It’s sick right now but I hope it can get better. FL seems happy.

WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
> FL seems happy. Not especially. Rents have tripled and available homes have dropped to ~0, due to a sudden influx of move-ins buying every sq inch of property. Meanwhile wages remain well below national average. Auto, housing and health insurance are each among the highest in the nation. Our homeless population has long been enormous and is getting ready to skyrocket. Excepting kids, socials services for the vulnerable are largely non-existent. We've spent more time in drought than out of it over the last 30 years. The 13th month of summer is the worst btw. Coastal beaches are routinely closed due to high bacteria counts. Past that it's probably like everywhere.
lotsofpulp 5y ago
> FL seems happy. Happily full of voters that collect tons of government aid via Medicare, Social Security, and National Flood Insurance Program, and yet happy to decry government help for anyone else. Let me know when FL has parental leave or any half decent employment laws that help those at the bottom.
- username90 5y ago
  Florida is a net payer. California is a net beneficiary even though they have so many high end jobs. This includes medicare, social security etc. https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-taxes-federal-services-difference-by-state-2019-1?r=US&IR=T#florida-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-taxes-federal-servic...
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    I am not sure why net payer/net beneficiary is relevant, but your link states the opposite of your claim. >The majority of states receive more in federal services than what they pay in federal taxes, but 11 states, including California and New Jersey, spend more than they receive. >We described the difference as the balance of payments. For example, California's balance of payments is -$13.7 billion. This means California residents get less in return than they pay for. >In California, each resident is sending in $348 more than they get back. >Florida: Total balance of payments: $62.4 billion Per capita balance of payments: $2,977 Its also from Sep 2017, after which there were considerable changes to the tax code so it is probably outdated.
  - cptskippy 5y ago
    California receives $12 per resident in Federal aid, Florida receives $2187 per resident. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/federal-aid-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/federal-aid...