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China literally welded people in their homes. They probably lied about their numbers. New Zeland, and Australia had few cases when they did lock down, and a

China literally welded people in their homes. They probably lied about their numbers. New Zeland, and Australia had few cases when they did lock down, and are islands. Korea has a very disciplined population compared to the West. Really you should be comparing the US to Europe. The EU didnt do much better, but was far more draconian. Or within the states. But anyway, i never know if people are serious when they propose the China or Australian model. Those were brutal and Im glad to be voting for a constitutional amendment next week to limit the governor's lockdown authority.

vkou 5y ago
> But anyway, i never know if people are serious when they propose the China or Australian model. Those were brutal and Im glad to be voting for a constitutional amendment next week to limit the governor's lockdown authority. I never know if people are serious when they suggest that a few hundred thousand dead is a worthwhile footgun-sacrifice to escape the draconian rule to which Australians and New Zealanders were subjected to over the past year. I'm generally a bit leery of ideological arguments that necessitate sacrificing those numbers of people for some intangible, abstract good. But if we are going to go down that road, can I get a say in which people we will get to sacrifice to meet that ideological objective?
- zhaksbs 5y ago
  Death is not the worst things in life, an unreasonably large fear of death is much worse. A death cowering in fear, or full of regret is pathetic. Who do you think you are picking who dies like a tyrant doling favors? Do you not think I have elderly loved ones I worry about? Do you think I would enjoy getting COVID myself, or potentially orphaning my daughters? No! I just refuse to blow my kids mind with endless lock downs. My obligation is to take COVID seriously, and do my utmost not to get sick myself. If I do, ill lock myself up in the basement for as long as it takes. But with my obligations I also have rights, and Ill be damned if someone too scared to have ever pondered their own mortality will ruin life for me without protest.

vkou 5y ago

> But anyway, i never know if people are serious when they propose the China or Australian model. Those were brutal and Im glad to be voting for a constitutional amendment next week to limit the governor's lockdown authority. I never know if people are serious when they suggest that a few hundred thousand dead is a worthwhile footgun-sacrifice to escape the draconian rule to which Australians and New Zealanders were subjected to over the past year. I'm generally a bit leery of ideological arguments that necessitate sacrificing those numbers of people for some intangible, abstract good. But if we are going to go down that road, can I get a say in which people we will get to sacrifice to meet that ideological objective?

zhaksbs 5y ago
Death is not the worst things in life, an unreasonably large fear of death is much worse. A death cowering in fear, or full of regret is pathetic. Who do you think you are picking who dies like a tyrant doling favors? Do you not think I have elderly loved ones I worry about? Do you think I would enjoy getting COVID myself, or potentially orphaning my daughters? No! I just refuse to blow my kids mind with endless lock downs. My obligation is to take COVID seriously, and do my utmost not to get sick myself. If I do, ill lock myself up in the basement for as long as it takes. But with my obligations I also have rights, and Ill be damned if someone too scared to have ever pondered their own mortality will ruin life for me without protest.